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Did Stan and Steve deliberately soften Spider-Man’s origin?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Marvel Comics, Spider-Man, Stan Lee, Steve Ditko    Posted date:  July 6, 2012  |  9 Comments


We all remember why Peter Parker decided that with great power came great responsibility, right? It’s because way back during his first appearance in Amazing Fantasy #15, Spider-Man decided that “from now on I just look out for Number One,” and let a common criminal get away …

… resulting in … well … you know how that decision turned out. Bye bye, Uncle Ben!

And it was all Peter’s fault.

But if you’d first encountered Spider-Man via his second appearance, you would have found a subtly different origin path. (more…)

So by how much more did the world end up loving Wally Wood over Bernard Krigstein?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  Bernard Krigstein, comics, EC Comics, Stan Lee, Wally Wood    Posted date:  July 2, 2012  |  No comment


A few weeks ago, I was bemoaning the fact that the world seemed to have forgotten EC Comics artist Bernard Krigstein, a thought brought about by two (then ongoing) Heritage original art auctions of complete comics adaptations of Ray Bradbury short stories.

“Mars is Heaven!” illustrated by Wally Wood was expected to bring in between $30,000 and $50,000, while “The Flying Machine” by Krigstein was estimated to go for anywhere from $7,000 to $9,000. This imbalance seemed odd to me, not only because Krigstein was once held in such high regard, but also because Bradbury considered “The Flying Machine” to be “the single finest piece of art-drawing I’ve seen in years.” Not that I have anything against Wally Wood, you understand, it’s just that until I saw those predictions, I’d assumed the two artists were held in equal regard.

Now that the auctions are over, though, I’m feeling a little better about it all.

So how’d those auctions turn out?

“Mars is Heaven!” sold for $54,687.50, and “The Flying Machine” went for $27,500. Which means that while Heritage, at least based on its initial estimates, predicted that the world would value Wood over Krigstein by a ratio of approximately 5-1, the actual ratio turned out to be 2-1.

Because of that, and taking into account that Bradbury’s “Mars is Heaven!” is a far more beloved story (even though I always preferred “The Flying Machine”), I’m much less miffed on behalf of Krigstein.

(And if all this now piques your interest in his unique style, and you’d like to see more, check out this post-EC tale “The Desert Rat,” which manages to cram 73 panels into a single 4 page Stan Lee-scripted story!)

And then there was the time Stan Lee banned exclamation points from Marvel Comics

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  May 30, 2012  |  1 Comment


I made an interesting discovery about a somewhat forgotten piece of Marvel Comics history while reviewing those ’70s letters columns for my post on whether we Assistant Editors were stacking the deck against Jack Kirby. (Well, perhaps not forgotten by you, but when I came across one of the answers I gave, I thought for a moment I’d only been joking.)

A fan had complained that the constant use of exclamation points in comics “can get very boring,” and he wondered why we did it. My answer referenced that there’d been “an experimental run of Marvel Comics published in 1971, during which time all letterers used periods instead of exclamation points,” but that experiment hadn’t gone well.

Check out my full answer below.

My initial thought upon rereading this after so many years was … really? (more…)

Revisiting Jack Kirby’s return to Marvel Comics

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  Jack Kirby, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  May 27, 2012  |  2 Comments


Over at the Kirby Museum, Robert Steibel has something to say about a post I wrote a year back which explained how, when I was working for Marvel in the ’70s, I disliked the work Jack Kirby was doing upon his return there, and how I dislike that work still. By work, I don’t mean the energetic as always images Kirby was drawing, but the text he supplied once he was responsible for both words and pictures, without Stan Lee to complement him. As I wrote in that post, “The art could still be the stuff of dreams at times, but the words that came out of his characters’ mouths seemed more like a nightmare.”

When it comes to the Stan vs. Jack wars, I am a partisan of neither. Once the duo disbanded, I don’t think either of them ever worked separately at the level they did when together. They needed each other. So I wasn’t slamming Kirby to elevate Lee, merely making an observation that when the King tried to do it all, it was far from satisfactory.

But let’s leave for another time the debate as to who’s right about the quality of Kirby’s prose. (Though it looks like that time won’t be too far off, as Steibel’s post, after all, was the first of two, and his second will deal with exactly that issue.) What I’d like to address here, and what it seems as if Steibel is most interested in having me address, is my behavior when I was on staff at Marvel in the ’70s, whether there was a conspiracy of some kind to cause Kirby to be fired, and if we were trying to get the scripting duties of his books for ourselves.

Steibel wrote:

Clearly they were all ambitious kids who wanted to take Jack’s place. They wanted to write comics and pointing out what they considered flaws in Jack’s work was a step in that direction. Push Jack aside and move in.

No, no, a million times no.

But to be more specific … (more…)

A visit with the Fantastic Four (plus a special appearance by Stan Lee!)

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Fantastic Four, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  February 22, 2012  |  6 Comments


And lo, there shall be an ending!

Over the past two weeks, I’ve shared scans from a folder of Marvel Comics character write-ups I found in 1975 wedged between drawers in a Bullpen file cabinet. They all included suggestions for which celebrities you should think of when reading the word balloons belonging to your favorite superheroes. One set (the X-Men) I published in an issue of FOOM, the others (Captain America, Thor, the Sub-Mariner, Doctor Strange, the Hulk, Spider-Man, and Iron Man) went unseen until I posted them on this blog.

Now here comes the final such write-up, on the Fantastic Four.

But before you click through to check it out, pause for a moment and try to imagine—who did Marvel think Reed Richards was supposed to sound like? And how about Ben Grimm and the rest? Got a name? OK, then go for it!

Did you come close? Whether you did or not, I’m sure you’re wondering—who wrote these? And why?

Because of the clues contained in these sheets, I was fairly certain they could not have been written any later than 1965, and therefore there were few possible culprits. I suspected Stan Lee, though my Bullpen peers offered up a few other names, such as Stan’s brother, Larry Leiber, or Superman co-creator Jerry Siegel, who worked briefly for Marvel in the early days.

But why merely speculate, you might ask? Why not reach out to Stan himself?

And that’s exactly what I did. (more…)

So where was Tony Stark wounded again?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Iron Man, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  February 20, 2012  |  No comment


Yesterday, I promised I’d share with you the Iron Man character write-up I found stuffed in the back of Marvel Comics file cabinet when I worked there in the ’70s, and even though you have much better things to do today than read this post and are off celebrating Presidents’ Day by buying a car or a mattress or a huge flat-screen TV, I’m a man of my word.

And so …

But wait!

Before you click on the scan below, first picture the characters of Tony Stark, Pepper Potts and Happy Hogan, and try to imagine which celebrity voices you’re meant to hear in your head whenever you read their word balloons.

Got a few names? OK, then now you can click away!

Well? Did you get close on any of them?

Whether you did or not, I imagine the main thing you’re thinking is … Korea?

Tomorrow, you’ll get to see the final character sheets I found—two pages on the Fantastic Four.

Plus a few words from none other than Stan Lee himself!

Can you see what’s missing from Spider-Man?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Marvel Comics, Spider-Man, Stan Lee    Posted date:  February 19, 2012  |  5 Comments


Over the past week or so, I’ve shared scans of pages I found in a Marvel Bullpen file cabinet during the mid-’70s—so far, you’ve seen the X-Men, Captain America, Thor, the Sub-Mariner, Doctor Strange, and the Hulk—and along the way I mentioned I had a feeling based on the content that these were written no later than the mid-’60s.

Today’s sheet will give you more of an idea of why I think this. Take a look at Spider-Man and his supporting cast and tell me what you see.

Or rather … what you don’t see.

Well? Did you not see what I thought you might not see? (more…)

And the incredible Hulk is meant to sound like … Huh? Are you sure?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Hulk, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  February 18, 2012  |  No comment


As I said in my previous post, I’m confident that there’s simply no way you’ll be able to guess the celebrity voice meant to run through your head once Bruce Banner Hulks out.

OK, this is your last chance to take a crack at it. Got your candidate in mind?

Then click away to read the character description I found stuffed in a file cabinet in the Marvel Bullpen back in the mid-’70s.

Well?

Admit it—you didn’t even come close.

Next up—Spider-Man, accompanied by a supporting cast of characters that’ll explain why I believe all of these pages were written in the ’60s.

Now it’s time to guess which celebrity Doctor Strange is supposed to sound like in your head

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Doctor Strange, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee    Posted date:  February 15, 2012  |  2 Comments


Over the past week, I’ve shared some superhero descriptions I found hidden between drawers in a filing cabinet back in the ’70s when I worked in the Marvel Bullpen—descriptions some of us who worked there at the time think were written by Stan Lee.

So far, you’ve seen write-ups of the X-Men, Captain America, Thor and the Sub-Mariner, complete with suggestions of what voice you were meant to imagine while reading the adventures of each character.

And today we come to Doctor Strange.

But before perusing the scan below, take a moment and think—who should the sorcerer supreme sound like?

Got a name? OK, then click away!

So? Were you in the ballpark?

Well, even if you were, I’m 100% positive that tomorrow, you’ll be stumped. Because there’s simply no way you’ll be able to successfully guess which celebrity’s voice you were meant to hear running through your head while you sounded out the word balloons of the incredible Hulk. It’s a name that totally surprised me.

Give it a shot if you think you’re up to it, but I promise—you’re going to lose!

So what famous voice did Stan Lee think should come out of the Sub-Mariner’s mouth?

Posted by: Scott    Tags:  comics, Marvel Comics, Stan Lee, Sub-Mariner    Posted date:  February 14, 2012  |  No comment


I’ve already shared a few ancient superhero character descriptions with you that were written decades ago by someone at Marvel Comics—presumably Stan Lee, though until there’s some evidence that’s more than just the opinions of me and a few fellow former Bullpenners, we’ll leave that word “presumably” in there.

So far, you’ve seen the X-Men, Captain America, and Thor. (Who knew that the Thunder God was supposed to sound like Richard Chamberlain AND Richard Burton?)

Yesterday, I asked you to try to guess which famous actor Prince Namor, the Sub-Mariner, was meant to sound like in the word balloons of your mind. Did you come up with one? Give the scan below a read and see if you were right.

So … how far off were you?

Now it’s time to give some thought to whose voice comes out of Doctor Strange’s eldritch mouth. Tune in tomorrow to see how close you come!

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