I first met comic book artist and writer Larry Lieber when I worked in the Marvel Comics Bullpen of the mid-‘70s. Though perhaps that’s not really accurate — because that was only when I first met him in the flesh. I really first met him when I was seven, the year I picked up copies of Tales of Suspense #39, in which he co-created Iron Man, Journey into Mystery #83, in which he co-created Thor, and Tales to Astonish #35, in which he co-created Ant-Man.

Larry also contributed to comics in many other ways, with long stints working on the Marvel western comic Rawhide Kid, the syndicated newspaper strips devoted to Spider-Man and The Hulk, and so much more. He’s also responsible for one of the most memorable moments of my early comics career. During a party hosted by Bullpen pal Tony Isabella at his midtown Manhattan penthouse apartment atop the Hotel Edison, he and I and Tony sang “New York, New York” from “On the Town” while we danced back and forth across the roof, pretending we were Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, and Jules Munchin.

A week before Larry’s 88th birthday, we met for dinner at his favorite French restaurant, Bistro Le Steak, on the corner of Third Avenue and East 75th Street in Manhattan, where we chatted about the old days, as well as what he has planned for the days still to come.

We discussed the old-time radio shows which most influenced him, what he learned about humanity from reading Margaret Mead back in the ’50s, how the only reason he became a writer was because he was too slow to make a living an artist, who told him back at the start of his career that comics was a “dying industry,” the tips Stan Lee gave to make him a better writer, why his attempts to work for DC Comics never worked out, the warning artist Syd Shores offered he wishes he hadn’t heeded, how a quote he heard in a movie about Irish playwright Sean O’Casey helped him understand the arc of his own life, the three best-selling books he read before writing his own novel, his mixed feelings on winning the Bill Finger Award, how Jim Shooter helped him relearn how to be an artist, which comics assignment he enjoyed the most, what Stan Lee told him about the Rawhide Kid that made him decide to take it over from Jack Kirby, why he feels like Don Quixote, the surprising thing he thinks is the best thing he’s ever written, and much more.

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Here’s what we ate during our meal at Bistro Le Steak —

Escargots
with parsley & garlic

Wild Mushroom Ravioli
wild mushroom cream sauce

Sea Scallops & Jumbo Shrimp
potato nest, diced vegetables, chipotle wine sauce

Potato Crusted Cod Fish
mushrooms, string beans, beurre blanc

Vanilla Ice Cream and Apple Pie

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