{"id":5751,"date":"2012-03-06T22:58:47","date_gmt":"2012-03-07T03:58:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=5751"},"modified":"2012-03-06T22:58:47","modified_gmt":"2012-03-07T03:58:47","slug":"the-essay-i-thought-would-get-me-fired-from-marvel-comics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2012\/03\/06\/the-essay-i-thought-would-get-me-fired-from-marvel-comics\/","title":{"rendered":"The essay I thought would get me fired from Marvel Comics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve already told you how the only reason I got my job at Marvel Comics in the &#8217;70s was because of a serendipitous encounter with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2011\/03\/31\/duffy-vohland-wishes-me-a-happy-birthday\/\">the late Duffy Vohland<\/a>.  But in a way, I almost lost that job because of Duffy, too. Or at least &#8230; I <em>thought<\/em> I was going to.<\/p>\n<p>Before Duffy pulled me into comics as a professional, he pulled me into his corner of comics fandom. Oh, I&#8217;d already been going to cons, buying fanzines, and getting involved in lots of other fanac, but he hooked me up with a bunch of guys who published and\/or wrote and\/or drew for a fanzine titled <em>CPL<\/em>\u2014that is, <em>Contemporary Pictorial Literature<\/em>. If you know anything about comics, you&#8217;ve heard of  some of those guys, because Bob Layton, Roger Stern, John Byrne, and Roger Slifer all went on to professional comics careers of their own.<\/p>\n<p>Duffy wrote a column known as &#8220;Duffy&#8217;s Tavern&#8221; for that (and other) fanzines, and asked me to fill in for an issue, which I did, writing an essay that appeared in the <em>CPL<\/em> #8, which featured this spiffy cover penciled by John and inked by Duffy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Cover.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5752\" title=\"CPL8Cover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Cover-193x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"193\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Cover-193x300.jpg 193w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Cover-660x1024.jpg 660w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Cover.jpg 1099w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 193px) 100vw, 193px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My essay, titled &#8220;Comic Art: Fact or Fiction?&#8221; was written when I was still a fan, and took a very jaundiced view of the creative state of the field. I wrote, among other things, that &#8220;There are very few comic books which even come close to what a comic should be.&#8221;  I sent the piece off, and forgot all about it, until it was published &#8230; by which time I was working on staff at Marvel. And upon rereading it, I thought\u2014<em>What have I done? Once Roy Thomas reads this, he&#8217;s going to can me for sure!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/MyCPLEssay.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5753\" title=\"MyCPLEssay\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/MyCPLEssay-191x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"191\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/MyCPLEssay-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/MyCPLEssay-654x1024.jpg 654w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/MyCPLEssay.jpg 1086w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 191px) 100vw, 191px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I trembled for several weeks waiting for the axe to fall, or at the very least for the two us to  have an extremely  uncomfortable conversation due to my having written an essay which basically maligned most of Marvel&#8217;s output. As far as I recall, though, nothing was ever said, either because Roy never read it or <em>had<\/em> read it but just thought it was too silly to even comment on.<\/p>\n<p>Rereading it now, it occurs to me that though It doesn&#8217;t quite express my feelings today, it does basically explain why I don&#8217;t like those recently announced <em>Watchmen<\/em> prequels and why I have no plans to read them. So some feelings never change.<\/p>\n<p>But enough about me.  Whatever you think of my essay, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll find it far more entertaining to look at some of the great art from that issue, including a naked Ben Grimm. <\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s right. A named Ben Grimm.<\/p>\n<p>By none other than the legendary  Joe Sinnott!<!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Animal Man by Don Maitz and Duffy Vohland<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8AnimalMan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5754\" title=\"CPL8AnimalMan\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8AnimalMan-193x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"193\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8AnimalMan-193x300.jpg 193w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8AnimalMan-661x1024.jpg 661w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8AnimalMan.jpg 1099w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 193px) 100vw, 193px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Iron Man by Dennis Fujitake  and P. Craig Russell<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronMan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5755\" title=\"CPL8IronMan\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronMan-192x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"192\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronMan-192x300.jpg 192w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronMan-657x1024.jpg 657w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronMan.jpg 1094w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 192px) 100vw, 192px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Thing by Joe Sinnott<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Thing.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5756\" title=\"CPL8Thing\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Thing-300x232.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Thing-300x232.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Thing-1024x792.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Black Orchid by John Byrne and Duffy Vohland<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Orchid.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5757\" title=\"CPL8Orchid\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Orchid-193x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"193\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Orchid-193x300.jpg 193w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Orchid-660x1024.jpg 660w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Orchid.jpg 1096w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 193px) 100vw, 193px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Iron Wolf by Howard Chaykin and Duffy Vohland<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronWolf.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5758\" title=\"CPL8IronWolf\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronWolf-191x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"191\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronWolf-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronWolf-654x1024.jpg 654w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8IronWolf.jpg 1082w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 191px) 100vw, 191px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>E-Man by Joe Staton and Duffy Vohland<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8EMan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5759\" title=\"CPL8EMan\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8EMan-192x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"192\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8EMan-192x300.jpg 192w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8EMan-656x1024.jpg 656w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8EMan.jpg 1093w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 192px) 100vw, 192px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Sub-Mariner by John Byrne and Duffy Vohland<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Namor.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5760\" title=\"CPL8Namor\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Namor-191x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"191\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Namor-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Namor-654x1024.jpg 654w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/CPL8Namor.jpg 1086w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 191px) 100vw, 191px\" 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