{"id":5611,"date":"2012-02-19T22:25:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-20T03:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=5611"},"modified":"2012-02-19T22:26:34","modified_gmt":"2012-02-20T03:26:34","slug":"spider-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2012\/02\/19\/spider-man\/","title":{"rendered":"Can you see what&#8217;s missing from Spider-Man?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the past week or so, I&#8217;ve shared scans of pages I found in a Marvel Bullpen file cabinet during the mid-&#8217;70s\u2014so far, you&#8217;ve seen <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/11\/did-stan-lee-think-cyclops-should-sound-like-anthony-perkins\/\">the X-Men<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/12\/so-which-actor-was-supposed-to-come-to-mind-when-you-heard-the-voice-of-captain-america\/\">Captain America<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/13\/close-your-eyes-think-of-thor-which-famous-actors-voice-do-you-hear\/\">Thor<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/14\/so-what-famous-voice-did-stan-lee-think-should-come-out-of-the-sub-mariners-mouth\/\">Sub-Mariner<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/15\/now-its-time-to-guess-which-celebrity-doctor-strange-is-supposed-to-sound-like-in-your-head\/\">Doctor Strange<\/a>, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2012\/02\/18\/and-the-incredible-hulk-is-meant-to-sound-like-huh-are-you-sure\/\">Hulk<\/a>\u2014and along the way I mentioned  I had a feeling based on the content that these were written no later than the mid-&#8217;60s.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s sheet will give you more of an idea of why I think this. Take a look at Spider-Man and his supporting cast and tell me what you see.<\/p>\n<p>Or rather &#8230; what you don&#8217;t see.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/StanSpiderMan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5613\" title=\"StanSpiderMan\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/StanSpiderMan-218x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/StanSpiderMan-218x300.jpg 218w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/StanSpiderMan-744x1024.jpg 744w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/StanSpiderMan.jpg 1700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Well? Did you not see what I thought you might not see?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s right\u2014the only love interest here for Peter Parker is Betty Brant.  No Mary Jane Watson (who was  introduced&#8212;though referenced earlier&#8212;in <em>Spider-Man<\/em> #42 (November 1966). No Gwen Stacy (who first came onto the scene in <em>Spider-Man<\/em> #31 (December 1965). <\/p>\n<p>Could these descriptions really have been written that early in the creation of the Marvel Universe, before those characters mattered?  And if so\u2014for what purpose? And by whom?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m still thinking Stan Lee wrote these &#8230; but I&#8217;ve been hearing other suggestions, such as Stan&#8217;s brother Larry Lieber, or even Superman co-creator Jerry Siegel, who did a bit of work for Marvel in the early days.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>As soon as my continuing research yields any nugget of truth, I&#8217;ll let you know!<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile&#8212;only two more write-ups remain. Check back tomorrow for Iron Man, and then &#8230; the Fantastic Four!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the past week or so, I&#8217;ve shared scans of pages I found in a Marvel Bullpen file cabinet during the mid-&#8217;70s\u2014so far, you&#8217;ve seen the X-Men, Captain America, Thor, the Sub-Mariner, Doctor Strange, and the Hulk\u2014and along the way I mentioned I had a feeling based on the content that these were written no [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[18,20,23,19],"class_list":["post-5611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-comics","tag-marvel-comics","tag-spider-man","tag-stan-lee"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5611","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5611"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5611\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5611"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5611"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5611"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}