{"id":39753,"date":"2026-11-12T08:51:38","date_gmt":"2026-11-12T13:51:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=39753"},"modified":"2026-11-12T08:51:38","modified_gmt":"2026-11-12T13:51:38","slug":"fran-wilde","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2026\/11\/12\/fran-wilde\/","title":{"rendered":"Savor sushi with the award-winning Fran Wilde on Episode 297 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Out my window, the leaves may have all changed color, but in my heart &#8212; and on Eating the Fantastic &#8212; it&#8217;s still summer. That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s time for another conversation recorded at LAcon V, following my chats with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2026\/10\/16\/martha-wells\/\">Martha Wells<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2026\/10\/30\/thomas-ha\/\">Thomas Ha<\/a>, plus the lightning round <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2026\/09\/07\/worldcon-donuts\/\">Worldcon Donut Divertissment<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This episode&#8217;s guest is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.franwilde.net\">Fran Wilde<\/a>, whom I last chatted with while you eavesdropped <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2016\/07\/25\/welcome-to-a-bifurcated-balticon-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-guest-fran-wilde\/\">at Balticon way back in 2016<\/a>, with exactly 10 years, two months, and 30 days passing between our meals. At that time, she\u2019d just won the Compton Crook for Best First Novel \u2014 <em>Updraft<\/em> \u2014 and with last year\u2019s <em>A Philosophy of Thieves<\/em>, she&#8217;s now up at nine. That includes the two other books which followed <em>Updraft<\/em> in her <em>Bone Universe<\/em> series \u2014 <em>Cloudbound<\/em> and <em>Horizon<\/em> \u2014 as well as <em>Riverland<\/em>, <em>The Ship of Stolen Words<\/em>, and others.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39754\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FranWildeEatingtheFantastic2-2048x2048.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Since the last time we chatted and chewed, she\u2019s also had stories published in magazines such as <em>Uncanny<\/em>, <em>Asimov\u2019s<\/em>, <em>Weird Tales<\/em>, <em>Fireside<\/em>, and <em>The Deadlands<\/em>, and in anthologies such as <em>Infinity\u2019s End<\/em>, <em>Do Not Go Quietly<\/em>, <em>Monsters, Movies &#038; Mayhem<\/em>, and others. Many of those stories were gathered in her 2025 collection <em>A Catalog of Storms<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s been nominated for the Hugo Award, the Nebula Award, the World Fantasy Award, the Dragon Award, and the Lodestar Award, and has twice won the Andre Norton Award. She\u2019s also the co-editor-in-chief \u2014 with Julian Yap \u2014  of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sundaymorningtransport.com\"><em>Sunday Morning Transport<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed the Viable Paradise story she wrote in 24 hours which became the inspiration for her Compton Crook Award-winning first novel <em>Updraft<\/em>, why she&#8217;s neither a plotter nor a pantser but a plantser, what it&#8217;s possible to teach and what it&#8217;s possible to learn, the importance of taking self-care when working on larger projects, why she called her latest novel a &#8220;genre turducken,&#8221; what it was like following Samuel R. Delany in a public reading on the anniversary of the publication of Moby-Dick, how she knows when an idea wants to be a short story, novel, or even series, coping with lengthy editorial responses, the many reasons an editor might reject a story which have nothing to do with that story, the prompts she gives people who don&#8217;t know what to write next, plus much more.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nikuayce.com\">Niku Sushi <\/a>         &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 296 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/43681759\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been with us at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nikuayce.com\">Niku Sushi <\/a>      &#8212;   <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Edamame <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39769\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/EdamamewithFran-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Miso Soup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39770\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/MisowithFran-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Salad<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39771\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/SaladwithFran-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Fran&#8217;s Sushi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-1024x666.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-768x500.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-1536x1000.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/FransSushi-2048x1333.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Sushi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-300x110.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"110\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-39767\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-300x110.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-1024x375.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-768x281.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-1536x563.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/ScottSushi-2048x750.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next on the podcast will be another conversation from this year\u2019s L.A. Worldcon, during which you\u2019ll head out for dinner with <a href=\"https:\/\/marikness.wordpress.com\">Mari Ness<\/a>, a prolific poet and short story writer who&#8217;s appeared on both Best Poem Hugo ballots since the category began, and was on the ballot this year with her poem &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.uncannymagazine.com\/article\/care-for-lightning\/\">Care for Lightning<\/a>,&#8221; which also appeared on this year&#8217;s Nebula Awards ballot. I hope you&#8217;ll join us!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Out my window, the leaves may have all changed color, but in my heart &#8212; and on Eating the Fantastic &#8212; it&#8217;s still summer. That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s time for another conversation recorded at LAcon V, following my chats with Martha Wells and Thomas Ha, plus the lightning round Worldcon Donut Divertissment. 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