{"id":37976,"date":"2025-11-14T08:59:40","date_gmt":"2025-11-14T13:59:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=37976"},"modified":"2025-11-14T08:59:40","modified_gmt":"2025-11-14T13:59:40","slug":"alaya-dawn-johnson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/11\/14\/alaya-dawn-johnson\/","title":{"rendered":"Settle in for an Ethiopian feast with Alaya Dawn Johnson in Episode 268 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This conversation comes to your ears not as the result of my convention travels, which is the source of so many of the chats I bring you, but instead due to the bookshop reading series Charm City Spec, which has been been taking place quarterly in Baltimore since late 2017.<\/p>\n<p>One of the last installment&#8217;s guests was <a href=\"https:\/\/alayadawnjohnson.com\">Alaya Dawn Johnson<\/a>, an award-winning author of eight novels for adults and young adults. Her debut YA novel, <em>The Summer Prince<\/em>, was long-listed for the National Book Award for Young People\u2019s Literature and was nominated for a Nebula (Andre Norton) Award for YA Science Fiction and Fantasy.  Her follow-up YA, <em>Love Is the Drug<\/em>, won the second of those prestigious awards. Her most recent YA novel, <em>The Library of Broken Worlds<\/em>, won the BSFA award for Fiction for Young People  and was a finalist for the Ursula K. Le Guin award. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37977\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/AlayaDawnJohnsonEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Her most recent adult novel, <em>Trouble the Saints<\/em>, won the 2021 World Fantasy Award for Best Novel. Her short story collection, <em>Reconstruction<\/em>, published by Small Beer Press in January 2021, was an Ignyte Award and Hurston\/Wright Legacy Award finalist. That collection includes her Nebula-Award winning short story, &#8220;A Guide to the Fruits of Hawai&#8217;i,&#8221; originally published by <em>The Magazine of Fantasy &#038; Science Fiction<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>Her short stories have appeared in many magazines and anthologies, including <em>Uncanny<\/em>, <em>Reactor<\/em>, <em>Clarkesworld<\/em>, <em>Asimov\u2019s<\/em>  <em>Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2015<\/em>, <em>The Book of Witches<\/em>, and most notably, in collaboration with Janelle Mon\u00e1e, the title story in <em>The Memory Librarian<\/em>. She is currently the visiting professor in the  MFA program at Queens College CUNY.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed what led to her &#8220;life-defining obsession&#8221; with Mexican history, the allure of science fiction&#8217;s cognitive estrangement, how the German edition of her vampire novel saved her life, the serendipitous discovery which inspired her first published fantasy story, why she no longer owns any of her rejection slips, which franchise inspired her first fan fiction novels, how a novella which didn&#8217;t seem to be working turned into her award-winning novel <em>Trouble the Saints<\/em>, the way a pajama party led to a novel sale, what she means when she says she&#8217;s a pantser while she plots, the way to determine which conflicting \u00a0critiques deserve your attention, how to prepare for uncomfortable conversations with editors, the importance of a single word or line to a story, the twin poles of ambiguity vs. explicitness, how Tanith Lee&#8217;s <em>The Silver Metal Lover<\/em> inspired <em>The Summer Prince<\/em>, the importance of meeting the moment in which you&#8217;re living, and much more.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us at      <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ethiopicrestaurant.com\">Ethiopic restaurant<\/a>   &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 267 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/39000270\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been with us at   <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ethiopicrestaurant.com\">Ethiopic restaurant<\/a>  &#8212;   <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Alaya&#8217;s Vegetarian Sampler<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>gomen, miser wot, fosolia, tikile gomen, kik aletcha, dinich wot, shimbra asa wot<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37987\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicVegetarianSamplerAlaya-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Beef and Chicken Sampler <\/strong><br \/>\n<em>minchet abish key wot, minchet abish aletcha wot, doro key wot, doro aletcha wot<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37988\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/EthiopicBeefandChickenSamplerScott-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from now, you\u2019ll be able to take a seat at the table for an Uzbek dinner with Naomi Kritzer, a four-time winner of the Hugo Award, most recently for her novelette &#8220;The Four Sisters Overlooking the Sea,&#8221; which took home the trophy earlier this year in Seattle.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This conversation comes to your ears not as the result of my convention travels, which is the source of so many of the chats I bring you, but instead due to the bookshop reading series Charm City Spec, which has been been taking place quarterly in Baltimore since late 2017. 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