{"id":37848,"date":"2025-10-08T07:25:46","date_gmt":"2025-10-08T11:25:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=37848"},"modified":"2025-10-08T07:25:46","modified_gmt":"2025-10-08T11:25:46","slug":"john-picacio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/10\/08\/john-picacio\/","title":{"rendered":"Tackle Texas BBQ with John Picacio on Episode 265 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to Seattle for the second conversation I captured at Worldcon, following my soup dumpling lunch with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/09\/26\/eugenia-triantafyllou\/\">Eugenia Triantafyllou<\/a>. Now it&#8217;s time to head out for BBQ with <a href=\"https:\/\/johnpicacio.com\">John Picacio<\/a>, one of the most acclaimed American artists in science fiction and fantasy during the past decade.<\/p>\n<p>Picacio is the winner of three Hugo Awards, nine Chesley Awards, five Locus Awards, two International Horror Guild Awards, the World Fantasy Award, and the Inkpot Award. He\u2019s created best-selling art for George R. R. Martin\u2019s\u00a0<em>A Song of Fire and Ice<\/em> series, the\u00a0<em>Star Trek<\/em> and\u00a0<em>X-Men<\/em> franchises, as well as over 150 book covers. His body of work features major book illustrations for authors such as Leigh Bardugo, Rebecca Roanhorse, Michael Moorcock, Harlan Ellison, James Dashner, Brenda Cooper, Frederik Pohl, Mark Chadbourn, Sheri S. Tepper, James Tiptree, Jr., Lauren Beukes, Jeffrey Ford, Joe R. Lansdale, and many, many more. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37850\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnPicacioEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>He is the founder of the creative publishing imprint,\u00a0Lone Boy, which has become the launchpad for his Loteria Grande cards, a contemporary re-imagining of the classic Mexican game of chance. He is the founder of The Mexicanx Initiative. He&#8217;s the co-author \u2014 with Leigh Bardugo \u2014 and illustrator of\u00a0<em>The Invisible Parade<\/em>, which released  September 2, 2025, by Little, Brown for Young Readers.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how he&#8217;d never have gotten where he is today without comics, why he initially turned down what ended up being his first science fiction book cover (and what made him change his mind), the reason he thinks of a book as a person he needs to introduce at a party, whether he pays attention to the artists who preceded him when updating the look of a book, why one of the most important skills for a cover artist is listening, the catalyst for his creator-owned, self-published projects, how his style and his skills have changed over the years, how his recent collaboration with Leigh Bardgo began, why he&#8217;d rather be a marathon runner than a sprinter, how to avoid getting caught up in the trope of the year when it comes to cover art, the reason he launched the Mexicanx Initiative, how stabilization isn&#8217;t the same as stagnation, and much more.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us at  <a href=\"https:\/\/jacksbbq.com\/south-lake-union\/\">Jack&#8217;s BBQ<\/a>  &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 264 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/38488065\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been with us at   <a href=\"https:\/\/jacksbbq.com\/south-lake-union\/\">Jack&#8217;s BBQ<\/a>  &#8212;   <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>White Bread, Pickles, Onions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37861\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/BreadPicklesOnionsJacksBBQ-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>John&#8217;s BBQ Tray<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-300x213.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"213\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37862\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-1024x727.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-768x545.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-1536x1091.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/JohnJacksBBQ-2048x1454.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s BBQ Tray<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37864\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/ScottJacksBBQ-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next episode, you&#8217;ll be able to join my dinner during the Seattle Worldcon with  Lara Elena Donnelly, the Nebula, Lambda, and <em>Locus<\/em>-nominated author of <em>The Amberlough Dossier<\/em>, and many other wonderful works of fiction.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to Seattle for the second conversation I captured at Worldcon, following my soup dumpling lunch with Eugenia Triantafyllou. Now it&#8217;s time to head out for BBQ with John Picacio, one of the most acclaimed American artists in science fiction and fantasy during the past decade. 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