{"id":37527,"date":"2025-07-25T09:47:14","date_gmt":"2025-07-25T13:47:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=37527"},"modified":"2025-07-25T09:47:14","modified_gmt":"2025-07-25T13:47:14","slug":"curtis-c-chen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/07\/25\/curtis-c-chen\/","title":{"rendered":"Pig out on pork belly with Curtis C. Chen in Episode 259 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last episode kicked off a run of Nebula Awards weekend conversations as you joined <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/07\/16\/aimee-ogden\/\">Aimee Ogden<\/a> for lunch, and now our time together in Kansas City continues as you head out to dinner with <a href=\"https:\/\/curtiscchen.com\">Curtis C. Chen<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Curtis C. Chen&#8217;s debut novel\u00a0<em>Waypoint Kangaroo<\/em>\u00a0(which was a 2017 <em>Locus<\/em> Awards and Endeavour Award Finalist) is the first in a series of funny science fiction spy thrillers. That was followed by\u00a0<em>Kangaroo Too<\/em>\u00a0(which received a starred review from\u00a0<em>Publishers Weekly<\/em>) and\u00a0<em>True Blue Kangaroo<\/em>\u00a0(a Smashwords bestseller for three months running). From 2008 to 2013, he posted a new flash fiction piece every Friday on a blog called &#8220;512 Words or Fewer.&#8221; 117 of those very short stories were collected in the book <em>Thursday&#8217;s Children<\/em>. His\u00a0shorter works have appeared in\u00a0<em>Playboy<\/em>, the ENNIE Award-winning\u00a0<em>Kobold Guide to Roleplaying<\/em>,<em>\u00a0The Year&#8217;s Best Fantasy: Volume 2<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Aliens vs. Predators: Ultimate Prey<\/em>, and elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37529\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/CurtisCChenEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>He has written for the Realm original podcasts\u00a0Echo Park,\u00a0Ninth Step Murders, and\u00a0Machina. His <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/XZ8Ue3vAYMA\">homebrew cat feeding robot<\/a> was displayed in the &#8220;Worlds Beyond Here&#8221; exhibit at Seattle&#8217;s Wing Luke Museum. He is a graduate of the Clarion West and Viable Paradise writers&#8217; workshops.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how he discovered <em>Star Trek<\/em> through the bars of his crib, how the super spystar of his Kangaroo trilogy was born, what it was like being critiqued by Pat Murphy and Ursula K. Le Guin when he was starting out, how taking voice acting lessons kickstarted his desire to write, the way to tell when it&#8217;s time to quit your day job (or not), how his nearly five-years-long flash fiction story-a-week project began, his creative solution for referencing the 20th century in his future series, an intriguing exercise for writers when watching TV shows based on the written word, why he went indie for the third book in his series, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us for BBQ at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bucktuibbq.com\">Buck Tui<\/a>  &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 258 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/37541080\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been at the table at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bucktuibbq.com\">Buck Tui<\/a>   &#8212;   <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Som Tum Thai<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Thai style papaya salad, shredded green papaya, Thai chili, cherry tomatoes,<br \/>\n long bean, peanut, lime, served with fried pork skins<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37532\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PapayaSaladBuckTuiBBQ-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Brisket Spring Roll<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Fresh spring rolls, smoked brisket, senmee noodle, veggie,<br \/>\nhoisin &#038; peanut sauce<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/BrisketSpringRollBuckTuiBBQ-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Pork Belly Plate<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with pineapple fried rice and baked beans<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37535\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PorkBellyPlateBuckTui-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Curtis&#8217; Thai Sausage and Pork Belly Combo Plate<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with potato salad and buck tui slaw<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-300x204.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"204\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-300x204.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-1024x695.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-768x521.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-1536x1042.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ThaiSausagePorkBellyComboPlateBuckTui-2048x1390.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today will be the last of three episodes recorded during the Nebula Awards weekend, where you&#8217;ll be able to have lunch with Benjamin Rosenbaum, who was a Nebula Award nominee this year for <em>The Ghost and the Golem<\/em>, his 480,000-word Jewish historical fantasy interactive novel set amidst the pogroms of 1881.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last episode kicked off a run of Nebula Awards weekend conversations as you joined Aimee Ogden for lunch, and now our time together in Kansas City continues as you head out to dinner with Curtis C. 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