{"id":37224,"date":"2025-06-05T07:08:50","date_gmt":"2025-06-05T11:08:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=37224"},"modified":"2025-06-05T07:08:50","modified_gmt":"2025-06-05T11:08:50","slug":"kemi-ashing-giwa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/06\/05\/kemi-ashing-giwa\/","title":{"rendered":"Feast on oysters with Kemi Ashing-Giwa in Episode 255 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last month&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.balticon.org\">Balticon<\/a> was one of the best I&#8217;ve ever experienced, due to a combination of good programming, good friends, good food (including visits to two spectacular bakeries which were new to me), and what&#8217;s most important as far as you&#8217;re concerned &#8212; good podcast guests. Kemi Ashing-Giwa, an author and scientist-in-training based in Palo Alto, is the first of three on whom you&#8217;ll get to eavesdrop.<\/p>\n<p>Her work includes the USA Today bestselling, Compton Crook Award-winning novel <em>The Splinter in the Sky<\/em>, the novella <em>This World Is Not Yours<\/em>, and the forthcoming novel <em>The King Must Die<\/em>, due out in November. Her short fiction, which has been nominated for an Ignyte Award and featured on the Locus Recommended Reading List, has been reprinted in <em>The Year\u2019s Best African Speculative Fiction Volume 3<\/em>, <em>Some of the Best from Tor.com: 15th Anniversary Edition<\/em> and <em>2024<\/em>, and <em>The Year\u2019s Top Tales of Space and Time 3<\/em>. She studied organismic and evolutionary biology with a secondary in astrophysics at Harvard, and is now pursuing a PhD in the Earth &#038; Planetary Sciences department at Stanford.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37226\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/KemiAshingGiwaEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed her conscious decision to not take any creative writing courses in college, the eight never-to-be published novels she wrote on her way to <em>The Splinter in the Sky<\/em>, how COVID-19 led her to take a deep dive into tea (and how tea then inspired her debut novel), her evolution from pantser to plotter, her outreach to 200 agents before she found the right one, how to craft compelling opening sentences, her tips for writing successful fight scenes, why she was able to handle attending Harvard and writing a novel at the same time, how best to deal with editorial revision suggestions, her love of reading debut novels, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us for lunch at Baltimore&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/thamesstreetoysterhouse.com\">Thames Street Oyster House <\/a> &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 254 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/36765195\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been at the table at <a href=\"https:\/\/thamesstreetoysterhouse.com\"> the Thames Street Oyster House <\/a> (in addition to Kemi&#8217;s Maryland Shrimp Salad Roll with a side of Eastern Shore Cucumber Salad, which you can see in the photo above)  &#8212;   <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Our Appetizer of Oysters<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-400x400.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/OystersThamesStreetOysterHouse-600x600.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s New Bedford Swordfish<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>maryland crab, pancetta, potatoes, peppers, fried egg<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-37230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SwordfishThamesStreetOysterHouse-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Roll and Cucumber<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today, you\u2019ll be able to take a seat at the table for the second of my Balticon meals &#8212; my breakfast with Silvia Moreno-Garcia, author of such books as <em>Mexican Gothic<\/em>, <em>The Daughter of Doctor Moreau<\/em>, <em>The Seventh Veil of Salome<\/em>, and many others, and winner of the Locus, British Fantasy, and World Fantasy awards.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last month&#8217;s Balticon was one of the best I&#8217;ve ever experienced, due to a combination of good programming, good friends, good food (including visits to two spectacular bakeries which were new to me), and what&#8217;s most important as far as you&#8217;re concerned &#8212; good podcast guests. 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