{"id":36946,"date":"2025-03-04T21:31:46","date_gmt":"2025-03-05T02:31:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=36946"},"modified":"2025-03-04T21:31:46","modified_gmt":"2025-03-05T02:31:46","slug":"why-not-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/03\/04\/why-not-21\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Not Say What Happened? Episode 21: My Long Weekend Annoying <em>MAD<\/em> Magazine Publisher Bill Gaines"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My latest look back at what I was doing in comics during the &#8217;70s has me remembering the weekend I couldn&#8217;t stop myself from teasing Bill Gaines about the <em>National Lampoon<\/em>&#8216;s satirical slam of <em>MAD<\/em> magazine, why famed con-runner Phil Seuling castigated us fans one afternoon for mistreating our mothers, the words Gerry Conway wrote for Daredevil&#8217;s girlfriend Karen Page in the basement of a Times Square Nathan&#8217;s, how my 1980 DC Comics vampire story ended up as a 1987  episode of <em>Tales from the Darkside<\/em>, the continuing mystery of the martial arts series I&#8217;d forgotten I&#8217;d tried to write for <em>Deadly Hands of Kung Fu<\/em> (and what Tony Stark had to do with it), and much more.<\/p>\n<p>You can eavesdrop on all those memories via the embed below or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1775481331\">download them at the site of your choice<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/35538465\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here are several images which should  enrich your listening experience &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Bill Gaines autograph from the 1972 Fan-Addict Convention<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Gaines1972ECFanAddictConvention.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Gaines1972ECFanAddictConvention-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36947\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Gaines1972ECFanAddictConvention-224x300.jpg 224w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Gaines1972ECFanAddictConvention.jpg 746w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 224px) 100vw, 224px\" \/><\/a><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Me at the 1971 Nathan&#8217;s Con<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>I&#8217;m in the center wearing the headband and a tank top<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics-294x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"294\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics-294x300.jpg 294w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics.jpg 605w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 294px) 100vw, 294px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>A Gerry Conway\/Alan Weiss collaboration from the 1971 Nathan&#8217;s Con <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathanWeissConway.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathanWeissConway-229x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"229\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathanWeissConway-229x300.jpg 229w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathanWeissConway.jpg 757w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Len Wein sketch from the 1971 Nathan&#8217;s Con <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/LenWeinSketch.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/LenWeinSketch-279x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"279\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/LenWeinSketch-279x300.jpg 279w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/LenWeinSketch-951x1024.jpg 951w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/LenWeinSketch.jpg 1752w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 279px) 100vw, 279px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>What I had to say about Phil Seuling&#8217;s first Second Sunday<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday1-234x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"234\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-17543\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday1-234x300.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday1-799x1024.jpg 799w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday1.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 234px) 100vw, 234px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday2-234x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"234\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-17544\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday2-234x300.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday2-797x1024.jpg 797w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/SecondSunday2.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 234px) 100vw, 234px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Phil Seuling&#8217;s Second Sunday promotional card<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-300x174.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"174\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36949\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-300x174.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-1024x594.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-768x446.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-1536x891.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardBack-2048x1188.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-300x174.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"174\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36950\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-300x174.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-1024x593.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-768x445.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-1536x889.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/PhilSeulingCardFront-2048x1186.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My comic book cover story which became an episode of <em>Tales from the Darkside<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedCover.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedCover-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedCover-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedCover.jpg 665w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedSplashPage.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedSplashPage-203x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedSplashPage-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/TheUnexpectedSplashPage.jpg 677w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>An ad for the Dragons Two series which never was<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-214x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36956\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-729x1024.jpg 729w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-768x1079.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-1093x1536.jpg 1093w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad-1458x2048.jpg 1458w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/DeadlyHandsofKungFu4Ad.jpg 1517w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 214px) 100vw, 214px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My latest look back at what I was doing in comics during the &#8217;70s has me remembering the weekend I couldn&#8217;t stop myself from teasing Bill Gaines about the National Lampoon&#8216;s satirical slam of MAD magazine, why famed con-runner Phil Seuling castigated us fans one afternoon for mistreating our mothers, the words Gerry Conway wrote 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