{"id":36470,"date":"2025-01-05T15:44:41","date_gmt":"2025-01-05T20:44:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=36470"},"modified":"2025-01-05T16:00:34","modified_gmt":"2025-01-05T21:00:34","slug":"why-not-say-episode-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2025\/01\/05\/why-not-say-episode-13\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Not Say What Happened? Episode 13: How Joker Co-creator Jerry Robinson Predicted I\u2019d Work in Comics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As I consider the way getting rejected by the Clarion Workshop in 1974 helped me break into comics and getting accepted by the Clarion Workshop in 1979 helped me break out of comics, I remember the writing schedule suggested by Harlan Ellison which proved impossible for me, the terrible comics-related advice I got from Damon Knight, Thomas M. Disch&#8217;s tips for building better characters, the questions Robin Scott Wilson wanted us to ask when critiquing short stories, the night Joker co-creator Jerry Robinson predicted I&#8217;d someday work in comics, the Barbie artist who painted me with tattoos and drew my portrait, the Robert Graves poem which explains why I had to quit writing comics, and much more.<\/p>\n<p>You can eavesdrop on my memories via the embed below or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1775481331\">download at the site of your choice<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/34727725\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here are some images which will enrich your listening experience &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Stan Lee at Carnegie Hall poster<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/StanLeeatCarnegieHall.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/StanLeeatCarnegieHall-237x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4615\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/StanLeeatCarnegieHall-237x300.jpg 237w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/StanLeeatCarnegieHall.jpg 514w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 237px) 100vw, 237px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott at Nathan&#8217;s Con<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics-294x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"294\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics-294x300.jpg 294w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/NathansComics.jpg 605w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 294px) 100vw, 294px\" \/><\/a><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Jerry Robinson sketches<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonBatman.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonBatman-238x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"238\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4613\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonBatman-238x300.jpg 238w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonBatman-812x1024.jpg 812w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonBatman.jpg 1700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 238px) 100vw, 238px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonRobin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonRobin-234x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"234\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4612\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonRobin-234x300.jpg 234w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonRobin-799x1024.jpg 799w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/12\/JerryRobinsonRobin.jpg 1673w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 234px) 100vw, 234px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Barb Rausch&#8217;s portrait<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/BarbRauschClarionDrawing.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/BarbRauschClarionDrawing-230x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"230\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12998\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/BarbRauschClarionDrawing-230x300.jpg 230w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/BarbRauschClarionDrawing.jpg 714w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 230px) 100vw, 230px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My post-Clarion Workshop cast<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-36479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ScottPostClarionCast-400x400.jpg 400w, 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