{"id":35662,"date":"2024-09-15T16:54:18","date_gmt":"2024-09-15T20:54:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=35662"},"modified":"2024-09-15T16:57:17","modified_gmt":"2024-09-15T20:57:17","slug":"sarah-pinsker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2024\/09\/15\/sarah-pinsker\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s time for two scoops of Sarah Pinsker on Episode 236 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to an entirely unexpected episode of Eating the Fantastic. Why, one could almost call it an <em>historic<\/em> episode! In fact, I won\u2019t <em>almost<\/em> call it historic &#8212; I <em>will<\/em> call it historic. Because it\u2019s the only episode since this podcast began during which you\u2019ll hear me chat with a creator while we eat a flavor of ice cream inspired by their latest book &#8212; in this case, <a href=\"https:\/\/sarahpinsker.com\">Sarah Pinsker<\/a>\u2019s <em>Haunt Sweet Home<\/em> &#8212; created by the Baltimore ice cream experts at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecharmery.com\">The Charmery<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Sarah\u2019s no stranger to longtime listeners of the show. She was my first guest way back on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/02\/10\/the-first-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-guest-sarah-pinsker-is-now-live\/\">Episode 1<\/a> in February 2016, my first virtual pandemic guest, during which we recorded while we each ate similar takeout in our own homes in April 2020 on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2020\/04\/26\/episode-120\/\">Episode 120<\/a> \u2014 that was when we discussed her unintentionally prescient debut novel <em>A Song for a New Day<\/em> \u2014  and a guest once again on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2021\/08\/13\/second-novels\/\">Episode 151<\/a>  in August 2021, when she was joined by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/06\/04\/karen-osborne\/\">Karen Osborne<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/04\/25\/eat-one-of-george-r-r-martins-dragon-eggs-with-k-m-szpara-in-episode-35-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">K. M. Szpara<\/a>, since they&#8217;d all recently published second novels.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35668\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahPinskerHauntSweetHome-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s Sarah\u2019s bio from the back flap of <em>Haunt Sweet Home<\/em> \u2014  <\/p>\n<p>Sarah Pinsker is the Hugo, Nebula, and Philip K Dick Award winning author of <em>A Song For A New Day<\/em>, <em>We Are Satellites<\/em>, <em>Sooner or Later Everything Falls Into the Sea<\/em>, <em>Lost Places<\/em>, and over sixty works of short fiction. Her stories have appeared in <em>Asimov&#8217;s<\/em>, <em>Strange Horizons<\/em>, <em>Fantasy &#038; Science Fiction<\/em>, and <em>Uncanny<\/em>, and in numerous anthologies and year\u2019s bests. She is also a singer\/songwriter with four albums on various independent labels. She lives in Baltimore, Maryland with her wife and two weird dogs.<\/p>\n<p>The flavor launched on Friday the 13th, and we met at The Charmery yesterday for a taste of that book-inspired ice cream, where we discussed the sculpture she saw at the American Visionary Art Museum which planted a seed for <em>Haunt Sweet Home<\/em>, the origin of the ice cream collaboration, how she knew her idea was meant to be a novella and not a novel, why she prefers writing books without a contract, how multiple ideas coalesced into one, the narrative purpose of telling a story via multiple formats, how to know a character who doesn&#8217;t know themselves, why you can&#8217;t tell from the end product whether a piece of fiction was plotted or pantsed, Kelly Robson&#8217;s theory about the Han Solo\/Luke Skywalker dichotomy and what it means for creating interesting characters, why she&#8217;s a fan of making promises in the early paragraphs of her stories, whether our families understand what we&#8217;re writing about when we write about families, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us for ice cream at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecharmery.com\">The Charmery<\/a>    &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 235 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/33062462\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And here we are inside and outside of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thecharmery.com\">The Charmery<\/a>   &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>A selfie as I point at Haunt Sweet Home on The Charmery&#8217;s menu<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35665\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/TheCharmeryFlavorBoard.jpg 1172w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Sarah pointing at Haunt Sweet Home as our servings are being scooped<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35666\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/SarahHauntSweetHome-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>A scoop of Haunt Sweet Home ice cream<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/HauntSweetHomeIceCreamScoop-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>By the way, 10% of the proceeds from the sale of the Home Sweet Home flavor will go to support <a href=\"https:\/\/defhr.org\">Days End Farm Horse Rescue<\/a>, but if you can\u2019t make it to The Charmery and would like to support Sarah\u2019s charity of choice anyway, I\u2019m sure they\u2019d be thrilled for any donation you\u2019d care to toss their way.<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next &#8212; really, I promise &#8212; there\u2019ll be that return visit with Jeffrey Ford, whom you last had the chance to eavesdrop on here way back in 2016 on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2016\/09\/02\/chow-down-on-a-full-irish-breakfast-with-jeffrey-ford-in-episode-17-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Episode 17<\/a>. And as you\u2019ll discover, we had a lot to catch up on.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to an entirely unexpected episode of Eating the Fantastic. Why, one could almost call it an historic episode! In fact, I won\u2019t almost call it historic &#8212; I will call it historic. 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