{"id":35338,"date":"2024-07-03T09:21:28","date_gmt":"2024-07-03T13:21:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=35338"},"modified":"2024-07-03T09:46:53","modified_gmt":"2024-07-03T13:46:53","slug":"sally-wiener-grotta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2024\/07\/03\/sally-wiener-grotta\/","title":{"rendered":"Gab over garlic bread with Sally Wiener Grotta in Episode 229 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the real world, <a href=\"https:\/\/2024.balticon.org\">Balticon<\/a> is around six weeks in the rearview mirror, but here at Eating the Fantastic, it&#8217;s not yet time to check out of the hotel and head for home. You&#8217;ve had a chance to take a seat at the table with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2024\/06\/07\/alex-jennings\/\">Alex Jennings<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2024\/06\/21\/elwin-cotman\/\">Elwin Cotman<\/a> from that Baltimore event, but we still have one more meal to go &#8212; because now it&#8217;s time for an Italian lunch with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sallywienergrotta.com\">Sally Wiener Grotta<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Grotta\u2019s latest two books are\u00a0<em>Of Being Woman<\/em>,\u00a0a collection of feminist science fiction stories, and\u00a0<em>Daughters of Eve<\/em>,\u00a0a discussion workbook which uses tales of biblical matriarchs to explore the modern world. Her short fiction has appeared in anthologies and magazines such as the\u00a0<em>North Atlantic Review<\/em>,\u00a0<em>DreamForge<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Across the Universe: Tales of Alternative Beatles<\/em>, and others. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyWeinerGrottaEatingtheFantastic-2-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Her previous books include <em>Digital Imaging for Visual Artists<\/em>\u00a0(co-authored with\u00a0Daniel Grotta), and the novels\u00a0<em>Jo Joe<\/em>, which was a Jewish Book Council Network book, and\u00a0<em>The Winter Boy<\/em>, which was a\u00a0Locus Magazine\u00a0Recommended Read. Sally is also co-curator of the Galactic Philadelphia Salon reading series. Plus she&#8217;s also an award-winning journalist and\u00a0photographer who has traveled on assignment to all seven continents.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed when we first met (and can&#8217;t quite figure out whether it was a third or a quarter of a century ago), how her first storytelling impulse began because she&#8217;d fall asleep while being read stories as a child, the importance of the question &#8220;what if?,&#8221; why she often finds horror difficult to read, the early experience which allowed her to have such a good relationship with editors, the story she wrote in Ursula K. Le Guin&#8217;s writing workshop which caused that Grand Master to say &#8220;what a darling monster,&#8221; when we should submit to editorial suggestions and when we should run screaming, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us  at  <a href=\"https:\/\/sabatinos.com\">Sabatino&#8217;s Italian restaurant<\/a>   &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 228 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/31985292\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s what loosened our tongues at <a href=\"https:\/\/sabatinos.com\">Sabatino&#8217;s Italian restaurant<\/a> (in addition to the garlic bread seen in the photo above)  &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Our Pasta<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35361\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/PastaSabatinoswithSally-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Sally&#8217;s Shrimp Caciatorri<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SallyEntreeSabatinos-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Veal Parmigiana<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-35364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ScottEntreeSabatinoswithSally-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next &#8212; the first of my Stokercon conversations, this one with writer Ai Jiang 48 hours before she won a Bram Stoker Award and a little more than a week before she won a Nebula award.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the real world, Balticon is around six weeks in the rearview mirror, but here at Eating the Fantastic, it&#8217;s not yet time to check out of the hotel and head for home. 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