{"id":34958,"date":"2024-03-22T09:31:15","date_gmt":"2024-03-22T13:31:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/?p=34958"},"modified":"2024-07-07T13:21:19","modified_gmt":"2024-07-07T17:21:19","slug":"julie-phillips","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2024\/03\/22\/julie-phillips\/","title":{"rendered":"Join biographer Julie Phillips for J\u04d3gerschnitzel in Episode 221 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I first met this episode\u2019s guest, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.julie-phillips.com\/wp\/\">Julie Phillips<\/a>, in the dealers room of the 2006 Los Angeles Worldcon, where I was introduced by Gordon Van Gelder, her editor on <em>James Tiptree, Jr.: The Double Life of Alice B. Sheldon<\/em>. That biography had been out only a few weeks by then, and it would go on to win the National Book Critics Circle Award, the Hugo and Locus Awards, and the Washington State Book Award. It\u2019s a truly magnificent achievement, and if you haven\u2019t already read it, you should track it down immediately. Once you do, you\u2019ll understand why I&#8217;m anxiously awaiting her next biography &#8212; of the great Ursula K. Le Guin. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34959\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/JuliePhillipsEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Her most recent book is <em>The Baby on the Fire Escape: Creativity, Mothering, and the Mind-Baby Problem<\/em> (2022). Her articles have appeared in <em>The New Yorker<\/em>, <em>Ms.<\/em>, <em>The Village Voice<\/em>,  <em>Newsday<\/em>, <em>Mademoiselle<\/em>, and many other publications. She currently lives in Amsterdam, where  she reviews books for <a href=\"https:\/\/4columns.org\"><em>4Columns.org<\/em><\/a> and writes about English literature for the Dutch daily newspaper <em>Trouw<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>When I learned the Washington County Museum of Fine Arts had asked her give the kickoff lecture of its More than Muses Weekend in nearby Hagerstown, Maryland, I reached out to see whether she had time to break bread so I could share her wisdom with you. And I&#8217;m so pleased she agreed. We met for lunch the day after her presentation at <a href=\"https:\/\/schmankerlstube.com\">Schmankerl Stube Bavarian restaurant<\/a>, one of my favorite places to eat in Hagerstown.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed why she called <em>The Baby on the Fire Escape<\/em> &#8220;a weird hybrid monster of a book,&#8221; the one thing she regrets not researching more thoroughly for her Tiptree bio, the reason there&#8217;s more space for the reader in a biography than a memoir, why some children of artistic mothers can make peace with their relationships and others can&#8217;t, the three things she felt it important to squeeze into the seven minutes she was given to speak at Ursula K. Le Guin&#8217;s memorial service, her writing method of starting in the middle of a book and working out toward both ends, the occasional difficulty of withholding judgement on one&#8217;s biographical subjects, the relationship between biographer Robert Caro and editor Robert Gottlieb, plus much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us  at  <a href=\"https:\/\/schmankerlstube.com\">Schmankerl Stube Bavarian restaurant<\/a> &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 220 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/30495458\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s what loosened our tongues at <a href=\"https:\/\/schmankerlstube.com\">Schmankerl Stube Bavarian restaurant<\/a>  &#8212; <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Breaded &#038; Fried Tomatoes<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>red tomatoes, served with creamy schmankerl dressing<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34963\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeAppetizer-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Julie&#8217;s  J\u04d3gerschnitzel Hunter Style Cutlet<\/strong><br \/>\ngrilled pork cutlet in hunter sauce,<br \/>\nserved with whipped potatoes and carrots<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeJulie-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Schnitzel \u201cWiener Art\u201d |<\/strong><em><br \/>\nlightly breaded pork, served with rahmsauce, carrots and sp\u00e4tzle<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34964\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/SchmankerlStubeScottEntree-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from now &#8212; my dinner with Sunny Moraine, during which we\u2019ll dig deep into their new novella <em>Your Shadow Half Remains<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I first met this episode\u2019s guest, Julie Phillips, in the dealers room of the 2006 Los Angeles Worldcon, where I was introduced by Gordon Van Gelder, her editor on James Tiptree, Jr.: The Double Life of Alice B. 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