{"id":34673,"date":"2023-12-29T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-29T15:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=34673"},"modified":"2023-12-29T10:01:00","modified_gmt":"2023-12-29T15:01:00","slug":"pat-murphy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/12\/29\/pat-murphy\/","title":{"rendered":"Join Pat Murphy for lunch at &#8220;the single best restaurant in the world&#8221; in Episode 215 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>2023 is almost over, but before the year ends, surely you have room for one more Eating the Fantastic meal &#8212; especially since it&#8217;s at what Calvin Trillin once called &#8220;the single best restaurant in the world.&#8221; Join me at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.arthurbryantsbbq.com\">Arthur Bryant&#8217;s BBQ<\/a> for the second conversation coming to you from the Kansas City World Fantasy Convention, following last episode&#8217;s dinner with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2023\/12\/15\/nina-kiriki-hoffman\/\">Nina Kiriki Hoffman<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My guest this time around is Pat Murphy, who won the Nebula Award for her 1986 novel <em>The Falling Woman<\/em>, plus a second Nebula the same year for her novelette, &#8220;Rachel in Love.&#8221; She also won the Philip K. Dick Award for her 1990 short story collection <em>Points of Departure<\/em>, and the World Fantasy Award for her 1990 novella, <em>Bones<\/em>. For more than 20 years, she \u00a0and Paul Doherty cowrote the recurring Science column in the\u00a0<em>Magazine of Fantasy &#038; Science Fiction<\/em>. She also co-founded the James Tiptree, Jr. Award in 1991. And that\u2019s just the tip of the iceberg.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PatMurphyEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve known Pat for a <em>loooong<\/em> time, and I can tell you exactly how long &#8212; we met on September 4, 1980, more than 43 years prior to the conversation you\u2019re about to hear. If you want to learn exactly how and why I can pinpoint that date,  well, the episode will reveal all.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed the part of Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s famed rules of writing with which she disagrees, why she felt the need to attend the Clarion writing workshop even after having made several sales to major pro markets, the occasional difficulties in decoding what an editor is truly trying to tell you, the importance of never giving up your day jobs, why she can&#8217;t read Dylan Thomas when she&#8217;s working on a novel, the differences between the infighting we&#8217;ve seen in the science fiction vs. literary fields, what we perceive as our personal writing flaws, a Clarion critiquing mystery I&#8217;ve been attempting to solve since 1979, the science fiction connection which launched her career at the Exploratorium, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us  at  Arthur Bryant&#8217;s BBQ &#8212;  <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 214 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/29266568\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what loosened our tongues over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.arthurbryantsbbq.com\">Arthur Bryant&#8217;s BBQ<\/a>   &#8212; <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Onion Rings<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34678\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OnionRingsArthurBryant-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Pat&#8217;s Pulled Pork Sandwich <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34680\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/PulledPorkSandwichArthurBryant-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Burnt Ends Sandwich<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34681\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/BurntEndsSandwichArthurBryants-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next \u2014 Izzy Wasserstein, author of the marvelous short story collection <em>All the Hometowns You Can&#8217;t Stay Away From<\/em> (a Lambda Literary Award finalist), and the forthcoming novella <em>These Fragile Graces, This Fugitive Heart<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2023 is almost over, but before the year ends, surely you have room for one more Eating the Fantastic meal &#8212; especially since it&#8217;s at what Calvin Trillin once called &#8220;the single best restaurant in the world.&#8221; Join me at Arthur Bryant&#8217;s BBQ for the second conversation coming to you from the Kansas City World 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