{"id":34651,"date":"2023-12-15T10:00:55","date_gmt":"2023-12-15T15:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=34651"},"modified":"2023-12-15T10:00:55","modified_gmt":"2023-12-15T15:00:55","slug":"nina-kiriki-hoffman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/12\/15\/nina-kiriki-hoffman\/","title":{"rendered":"Feast on crab fried rice with Nina Kiriki Hoffman in Episode 214 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The year&#8217;s almost over, but here at Eating the Fantastic, October&#8217;s World Fantasy Convention has only just begun.<\/p>\n<p>The first of four conversations I brought back for you from Kansas City is with  Nina Kiriki Hoffman, who aside from having sung the earworm &#8220;Feelings&#8221; with me more times than I can count, has either won or been a finalist for the Nebula Award, the Locus Award, the World Fantasy Award, the Theodore Sturgeon Award, the HOMer award from CompuServe, the Endeavour Award, the Mythopoeic Society Award, the James Tiptree Jr. Award, and the Philip K. Dick Award. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34652\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/NinaKirikiHoffmanEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>She won the 2008 Nebula Award for Best Short Story for &#8220;Trophy Wives,&#8221; and her novel <em>The Thread That Binds the Bones<\/em> won the Bram Stoker Award for first novel. Other novels include <em>The Silent Strength of Stones<\/em> (a sequel to <em>The Thread That Binds the Bones<\/em>), <em>A Fistful of Sky<\/em>, and <em>A Stir of Bones<\/em>. Her novella &#8216;&#8221;Unmasking,&#8221; published in 1992 by Axolotl Press, was a finalist for the 1993 World Fantasy Award. Her novella &#8220;Haunted Humans&#8221; was a finalist for the 1995 Nebula Award for Best Novella and on the same ballot as her novelette&#8221;The Skeleton Key,&#8221; shortlisted for Best Novelette.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed the way a ghost story which left her wanting more led to her taking her writing more seriously, her early reactions to reading Robert A. Heinlein and Ursula K. Le Guin, how the Clarion workshop convinced her she could have a career as a writer, the way she wanted to grow up to be a combination of Ray Bradbury and Zenna Henderson, what she learned about characterization from Samuel R. Delany while at Clarion, the major difference she saw between the horror and science fiction communities during the early days of the Internet, how my perception of the arc her career was affected not by what she wrote but by what she sold, the lesson Ellen Datlow taught her which she passes on to her students, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us  at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lulusnoodles.com\"> Lulu&#8217;s Thai Noodle Shop<\/a>  &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; or <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/1083737796\">wherever<\/a> you choose to consume your podcasts &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 213 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/29096638\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what loosened our tongues over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lulusnoodles.com\"> Lulu&#8217;s Thai Noodle Shop<\/a>   &#8212; <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Pan-friend pork dumplings<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/DumplingsLulusEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Tempura Vegetables <\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Tempura fried vegetable medley served with<br \/>\nsweet chili sauce &#038; cilantro chimichurri<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34654\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/TempuraLulusEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Crab Fried Rice<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>lump crab stir-fried with jasmine rice, egg, scallions,<br \/>\nyellow onion, cucumber slices &#038; fresh cilantro   <\/em>  <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34658\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/CrabFriedRiceLulusEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Taro Ice Cream<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-34659\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/IceCreamLulusEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next \u2014 my lunch with Pat Murphy, who won the Nebula Award for her 1986 novel <em>The Falling Woman<\/em>, plus a second Nebula the same year for her novelette, &#8220;Rachel in Love.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The year&#8217;s almost over, but here at Eating the Fantastic, October&#8217;s World Fantasy Convention has only just begun. 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