{"id":33959,"date":"2023-06-30T08:47:58","date_gmt":"2023-06-30T12:47:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=33959"},"modified":"2023-06-30T08:47:58","modified_gmt":"2023-06-30T12:47:58","slug":"jordan-kurella","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/06\/30\/jordan-kurella\/","title":{"rendered":"Bite into a baconless BLT with Jordan Kurella in Episode 201 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This episode\u2019s conversation is the third coming to you from last month&#8217;s Nebula Awards conference in Anaheim, following up on my chats with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2023\/06\/02\/william-shunn\/\">William Shunn<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2023\/06\/16\/straczynski\/\">J. Michael Straczynki<\/a>. The Nebulas were the first of three events I attended over a six-week period, because Balticon was only two weeks later, and then StokerCon three weeks after that. I have a slightly longer break now, but still, if you\u2019re listening to this episode the same day I uploaded it, Readercon is only two weeks away, and I\u2019m currently in the midst of nailing down the guests I\u2019ll be chatting and chewing with while there in Quincy, Massachusetts.<\/p>\n<p>But enough about the future &#8212; this episode\u2019s guest is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jordankurella.com\">Jordan Kurella<\/a>, who was a Nebula Award nominee this year in the category of Best Novella for <em>I Never Liked You Anyway<\/em>, which was also longlisted for the BSFA award. \u00a0His stories have appeared in <em>Beneath Ceaseless Skies<\/em>, <em>Apex<\/em>, <em>Mermaid Monthly<\/em>, <em>Glitter + Ashes<\/em>, <em>Strange Horizons<\/em>, and many other magazines and anthologies. Some of these were gathered in his short story collection, <em>When I Was Lost<\/em>, published by Trepidatio in\u00a0December.\u00a0In his past lives, he was a photographer, radio DJ, and social worker, and he has also taught at Iowa State University and\u00a0Rambo Academy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33961\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanKurellaEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed which ice cream flavor he chose to celebrate his Nebula Award nomination, the way readers can tell which stories writers had the most fun writing, how \u00a0all he needs to pants a story is the first line, what caused him to say &#8220;it&#8217;s not write what you know, it&#8217;s write what you&#8217;re embarrassed about,&#8221; why he doesn&#8217;t like to reread his own published work unless he has to, how to avoid getting stuck in rabbit holes of research, the ways writing a book can be like spending time with your best friends, his rule about story titles, why we&#8217;re both so attracted to writing love stories, how playing the violin in public prepared him for surviving rejection, why he published only a single piece of literary fiction before realizing the fantastic was where he belonged, and so much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us for a vegan lunch at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovinghutgg.com\">Loving Hut<\/a> in Anaheim, California &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 200 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/27333234\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lovinghutgg.com\">Loving Hut<\/a>  &#8212; <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Jordan&#8217;s BLT<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Toasted Bread, Smoky Baconless Protein, Tomato,<br \/>\n Lettuce, and Garlic Basil Aioli with Fries<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/BLTLovingHut-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Pad Thai<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Rice Noodles, Konjaku Shrimpless Crescents, Chick&#8217;un, Mushroom, Tofu, Beansprouts, Cabbage, and Carrots. Served with Lemon Wedge &#038; Crushed Peanuts*<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33963\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/PadThaiLovingHut-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here we are showing off our snazzy jackets at the cocktail party prior to the weekend&#8217;s Nebula Awards banquet &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33993\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JordanScottNebulas.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today, you\u2019ll be able to eavesdrop on my penultimate meal from the Nebula Awards weekend \u2014 my dinner with 1979 Clarion Science Fiction Writing Workshop classmate  Rhondi Salsitz, a writer I consider to be unfairly underappreciated. That\u2019s because even though you may not have encountered her under that name, you may have read &#8212; without realizing it was her &#8212; her <em>Sand Wars<\/em> series as written by Charles Ingrid, her horror novels as by Elizabeth Forrest, her fantasy novels from Emily Drake or Jenna Rhodes, plus many other novels under many other pseudonyms. I hope you\u2019ll join us.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This episode\u2019s conversation is the third coming to you from last month&#8217;s Nebula Awards conference in Anaheim, following up on my chats with William Shunn and J. Michael Straczynki. 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