{"id":33886,"date":"2023-06-02T08:53:50","date_gmt":"2023-06-02T12:53:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=33886"},"modified":"2023-06-02T12:52:21","modified_gmt":"2023-06-02T16:52:21","slug":"william-shunn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/06\/02\/william-shunn\/","title":{"rendered":"Dip into durian ice cream with William Shunn in Episode 199 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to head to Anaheim, California to take a seat at the table with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shunn.net\">William Shunn<\/a>, the first of five guests I managed to chat and chew with for Eating the Fantastic during last month&#8217;s Nebula Awards conference. I first met Bill in 1993 though his words alone, when I bought his short story &#8220;Colin and Ishmael in the Dark&#8221; for publication in <em>Science Fiction Age<\/em> magazine. We met in the flesh later that same year at the San Francisco Worldcon, and he&#8217;s been part of my life for the past 30 years.<\/p>\n<p>Bill attended the Clarion Science Fiction Writers Workshop in 1985, when he was only 17. (A class which included <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/06\/08\/join-mary-turzillo-for-lunch-in-las-vegas-on-episode-10-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Mary Turzillo<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2019\/05\/14\/dare-to-eat-donuts-with-a-dozen-horrific-creators-during-the-stokercon-donut-spooktacular\/\">Geoffrey Landis<\/a>, Kristine Kathryn Rusch, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/08\/23\/its-time-for-thai-food-with-resa-nelson-in-episode-16-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Resa Nelson<\/a>, and other writers with whom you might be familiar.) In addition to being published in <em>Science Fiction Age<\/em>, he&#8217;s also appeared in <em>Asimov\u2019s<\/em>, <em>Analog<\/em>, <em>F&#038;SF<\/em>, <em>Realms of Fantasy<\/em>, and other magazines. In 2002, he was nominated for a Nebula in the category of novelette for \u201cDance of the Yellow-Breasted Luddites,&#8221; and a few years later hit the nomination trifecta when he was up for a Nebula, Hugo,  and Sturgeon Award for his novella \u201cInclination,&#8221; which had been published in <em>Asimov&#8217;s<\/em> in 2006.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33887\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WilliamShunnEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In addition, if you\u2019re a writer, you might be familiar with what\u2019s come to be called the \u201cShunn format,&#8221; a guide to proper manuscript preparation which first appeared online in 1995 and has since become the gold standard for numerous publications. His widely acclaimed memoir, <em>The Accidental Terrorist: Confessions of a Reluctant Missionary<\/em>, was published in 2015, and in addition to detailing the youthful indiscretion which prevents him from ever returning to Canada, explains how Clarion changed his life and helped him become the writer he is today. <\/p>\n<p>We discussed what he hoped would happen when he arrived at the Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writing Workshop when he was 17 vs. what actually did happen, how his post-Clarion homelife was haunted by Ray Bradbury, the time Kate Wilhelm critiqued his critiquers, how an early rejection from <em>Playboy<\/em> got him in big trouble, the way a tragedy scuttled the sale of his memoir to a major publisher, how he and Derryl Murphy collaborated on a novella without killing each other, and so much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 198 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/27024702\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate at <a href=\"https:\/\/hoa-sen.cafes-nearby.com\">Hoa Sen Vegetarian Restaurant<\/a>  &#8212; <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>N\u1ea5m Chi\u00ean D\u00f2m<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>crispy mushroom<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33890\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyMushroomswithBill-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Ph\u1edf \u00c1p Ch\u1ea3o Gi\u00f2n<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>crispy fried big size noodles<br \/>\nwith vegetables and tofu<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33893\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/CrispyFriedNoodleswithBill-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Bill&#8217;s C\u01a1m Tay C\u1ea7m <\/strong><br \/>\nrice in clay pot with mushrooms<br \/>\nand vegetarian chicken <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33895\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/ClayPotRicewithBill.jpg 1045w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Durian Ice Cream<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33913\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/DurianIceCream-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today on Episode 200 will be guest J. Michael Straczynski, whose 2019  autobiography<em> Becoming Superman<\/em> and 2021 novel <em>Together We Will Go<\/em> are both riveting reads, well worth tracking down. He&#8217;s perhaps best known as the creator of the television series <em>Babylon 5<\/em>, for which he wrote 92 of its 110 episodes. <\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to head to Anaheim, California to take a seat at the table with William Shunn, the first of five guests I managed to chat and chew with for Eating the Fantastic during last month&#8217;s Nebula Awards conference. 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