{"id":33512,"date":"2023-03-24T09:09:54","date_gmt":"2023-03-24T13:09:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=33512"},"modified":"2023-03-24T09:09:54","modified_gmt":"2023-03-24T13:09:54","slug":"annalee-newitz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/03\/24\/annalee-newitz\/","title":{"rendered":"Settle in for arancini  with Annalee Newitz in Episode 194 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to <a href=\"https:\/\/boskone.org\">Boskone<\/a> for the second of three conversations recorded there, following last episode&#8217;s chat with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2023\/03\/10\/walter-jon-williams\/\">Walter Jon Williams<\/a>. I invite you to take a seat at the table with my guest <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techsploitation.com\">Annalee Newitz<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tonyandelaines.com\">Tony and Elaine\u2019s<\/a>, a casual, old school, Italian red sauce restaurant in the North End of Boston.<\/p>\n<p>Annalee is the author of three novels \u2014\u00a0<em>The Terraformers <\/em>(just out in January), <em>The Future of Another Timeline<\/em>, and\u00a0their debut novel\u00a0<em>Autonomous<\/em>, which won the Lambda\u00a0Literary Award, and was nominated for the Nebula and Locus Awards.\u00a0Their short story \u201cWhen Robot and Crow Saved East St. Louis\u201d won the 2019 Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award. \u00a0Their nonfiction books include <em>Four Lost Cities: A Secret History of the Urban Age<\/em>, which was a national bestseller and was praised in <em>The New York Times<\/em>, <em>The San Francisco Chronicle<\/em>, and <em>The New Yorker<\/em>, and<em>\u00a0Scatter, Adapt and Remember: How Humans Will Survive a Mass Extinction<\/em>,\u00a0which was a finalist for the <em>LA Times<\/em> Book Prize in science.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33513\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeNewitzEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re also\u00a0the co-editor of the essay collection <em>She\u2019s Such A Geek\u00a0<\/em>(Seal Press), and author of <em>Pretend We\u2019re Dead: Capitalist\u00a0Monsters in American Pop Culture\u00a0<\/em>(Duke University Press). They&#8217;re the co-host with Charlie Jane Anders of the Hugo Award-winning podcast <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com\"><em>Our Opinions Are Correct<\/em><\/a>, and in addition to having been the founder of <em>io9<\/em>, served as the editor-in-chief of <em>Gizmodo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how difficult (and disappointing) it would have been to eat a trilobite, what writing their non-fiction books taught them about creating the arcs of novels, why their brain seems more suited for novels than short stories, how best to include a message in fiction without the soapbox overwhelming the story, the greatest bad review one of their books ever got (it involved creamed corn), how to inhabit characters who are hundreds of years old, fun facts they learned about moose which helped make their new book better, the music they blasted to rev up for one of the novel&#8217;s big action scenes, how to make the growth of a fictional romance believable to readers, the serendipitous way in which Ken McLeod rekindled their love of science fiction, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 193 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/26327628\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what  we chowed down on during our  lunch at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tonyandelaines.com\">Tony and Elaine\u2019s<\/a>  &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Garlic Bread<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>mozzarella, herbs<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33523\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/GarlicBreadTonyandElaines-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Arancini<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>caciocavallo, marinara<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AranciniTonyElaine-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Spaghetti and Meatballs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33524\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/MeatballsTonyandElaines-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Annalee&#8217;s Pasta alla vodka<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/AnnaleeEntreeTonyandElaines-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today will be my third and final conversation from Boskone, which occurred during dinner with Theodora Goss, a World Fantasy Award-winning author whose latest and  truly magnificent collection <em>The Collected Enchantments<\/em>  has just been released.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to Boskone for the second of three conversations recorded there, following last 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