{"id":33428,"date":"2023-03-10T09:38:11","date_gmt":"2023-03-10T14:38:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=33428"},"modified":"2023-03-10T09:38:11","modified_gmt":"2023-03-10T14:38:11","slug":"walter-jon-williams","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2023\/03\/10\/walter-jon-williams\/","title":{"rendered":"Polish off a Polish meal with Walter Jon Williams in Episode 193 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to the first of three episodes recorded at the 60th incarnation of <a href=\"https:\/\/boskone.org\">Boskone<\/a>, which according to longtime attendees, offered up the warmest weather that con has ever seen. Considering  past Boston Februarys have been brutal, going so far as to one year bring on a blizzard, stranding people at the con hotel, I was thrilled. I was also thrilled to be able to grab lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.walterjonwilliams.net\">Walter Jon Williams<\/a> the day Boskone began at <a href=\"http:\/\/cafepolonia.com\">Cafe Polonia<\/a>, which has been  serving  traditional and gourmet Polish and Eastern European dishes  in South Boston for more than 20 years.<\/p>\n<p>Walter&#8217;s the author of more than\u00a0forty volumes of fiction, in addition to works in film, television, comics, and gaming. He\u00a0began his career by writing historical fiction, the sea-adventure series <em>Privateers &#038; Gentlemen<\/em>. But after the market for historicals died, he relaunched himself as a science fiction writer. \u00a0He&#8217;s\u00a0written cyberpunk (<em>Hardwired<\/em>, <em>Voice of the Whirlwind<\/em>, <em>Angel Station<\/em>), near-future thrillers (<em>This Is Not a Game<\/em>, <em>The Rift<\/em>), classic space opera (<em>Dread Empire\u2019s Fall<\/em>), \u201cnew\u201d space opera (<em>Aristoi<\/em>), post-cyberpunk epic fantasy new weird (<em>Metropolitan<\/em> and <em>City on Fire<\/em>), and the world\u2019s only gothic western science fiction police procedural (<em>Days of Atonement<\/em>).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterJonWilliamsEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>He&#8217;s been nominated for many literary awards, and for a number of years was science fiction\u2019s \u201cBull Goose Loser\u201d &#8212; that is, the person who had the most award nominations without having actually won anything &#8212; a streak which ended when he won a Nebula Award in 2001 for his novelette &#8220;Daddy&#8217;s World.&#8221; His short fiction has appeared in such magazines as <em>Omni<\/em>, <em>Fantasy and Science Fiction<\/em>, <em>Asimov&#8217;s<\/em>, and others, as well as such anthologies as <em>Alien Crimes<\/em>, <em>The New Space Opera<\/em>, <em>Songs of the Dying Earth: Stories in Honor of Jack Vance<\/em>, plus George R.R. Martin\u2019s <em>Wild Cards<\/em> project. He&#8217;s also been involved in the gaming industry, having\u00a0written RPGs based on <em>Privateers &#038; Gentlemen<\/em> and <em>Hardwired<\/em>, contributed to the alternate-reality game <em>Last Call Poker<\/em>, and written the dialog for the Electronic Arts game <em>Spore<\/em>.\u00a0In 2017, he was the Guest of Honor at the 75th World Science Fiction Convention, held in Helsinki.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed why when he started out he didn&#8217;t think he was good enough to make it as a science fiction writer, how if I were to read his first drafts they&#8217;d terrify me, the con at which Gordon Dickson wandered around trying to sell one of Walter&#8217;s novels to editors, why the &#8217;50s was the Golden Age of historical fiction in America, the way in which his first science fiction novel was an inversion of all the historical fiction he&#8217;d written before, which issues of <em>Fantastic Four<\/em> got him so angry he quit reading comics for 20 years, how deep he was into his career before he finally realized he might actually make a go at this writing thing, the most frequent problem found when teaching Taos Toolbox, what he learned about his Hugo and Nebula Award-nominated \u201cSurfacing\u201d by leaving it untouched in a drawer for six months, his motivation for the one time he had to say no to an editorial suggestion, what his extremely rare bouts of writers block &#8212; lasting only a few days &#8212; were really about, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 192 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/26187693\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what  we chowed down on during our  lunch at <a href=\"http:\/\/cafepolonia.com\">Cafe Polonia<\/a>  &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Walter&#8217;s Highlander Smoked Cheese Appetizer<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>traditional Polish smoked cheese served with lingonberry jam<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-300x186.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"186\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33432\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-300x186.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-1024x633.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-768x475.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-1536x950.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/SmokedCheeseCafePolonia-2048x1266.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Blood Sausage Appetizer<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>served lightly broiled with caramelized onions<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33434\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/BloodSausageCafePolonia-1-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Walter&#8217;s Boneless Pork Chop Entree <\/strong><br \/>\n<em>lightly breaded pan fired pork cutlet served<br \/>\nwith a special sweet cabbage stew<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-300x171.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"171\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33436\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-300x171.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-1024x584.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-768x438.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-1536x876.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/WalterEntreeCafePolonia-2048x1168.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Polish Plate Entree<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Hunter&#8217;s stew, stuffed cabbage, three pierogies,<br \/>\nand grilled Polish sausage kielbasa<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33435\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/PolishPlateCafePolonia-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Shared Blueberry Crepe<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>served with a garnish of whipped cream<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-33437\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/CrepeCafePolonia-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up two weeks from today will be another conversation straight from Boskone, this time with Annlee Newwitz, whose new novel <em>The Terraformers <\/em>was released just a few weeks before the con. Their debut novel\u00a0<em>Autonomous<\/em> won the Lambda\u00a0Literary Award and was nominated for the Nebula and Locus Awards, plus their short story \u201cWhen Robot and Crow Saved East St. Louis\u201d won the 2019 Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to the first of three episodes recorded at the 60th incarnation of Boskone, which according to longtime attendees, offered up the warmest weather that con has ever seen. Considering past Boston Februarys have been brutal, going so far as to one year bring on a blizzard, stranding people at the con hotel, I was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[732,972],"class_list":["post-33428","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-eating-the-fantastic","tag-walter-jon-williams"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33428","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33428"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33428\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":33510,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33428\/revisions\/33510"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33428"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33428"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33428"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}