{"id":29076,"date":"2022-11-04T09:34:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-04T13:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=29076"},"modified":"2022-11-05T13:16:50","modified_gmt":"2022-11-05T17:16:50","slug":"michael-swanwick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/11\/04\/michael-swanwick\/","title":{"rendered":"Munch Carnitas Benedict with the award-winning Michael Swanwick in Episode 184 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the flesh and blood world, the 80th World Science Fiction Convention is long over, but here at Eating the Fantastic &#8212; where I&#8217;ve already invited you to eavesdrop on my meals there with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/09\/23\/wesley-chu\/\">Wesley Chu<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/10\/05\/carol-tilley\/\">Carol Tilley<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/10\/21\/eileen-gunn\/\">Eileen Gunn<\/a> &#8212; it lives on. This time around, for the fourth of six culinary conversations I managed to find time for during a busy Worldcon, I invite you to join me for brunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/floggingbabel.blogspot.com\">Michael Swanwick<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Michael has won five Hugo Awards and three Locus Awards, as well as a Nebula, World Fantasy, and Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award &#8212; plus has been nominated for and lost more of these major awards than any other writer. His novels include <em>Vacuum Flowers<\/em>, <em>Stations of the Tide<\/em>, and <em>Bones of the Earth<\/em>, plus his most recent, <em>City Under the Stars<\/em>, a novel co-authored with the late Gardner Dozois. He&#8217;s also published a baker&#8217;s dozen of short story collections over the past three decades, starting with <em>Gravity&#8217;s Angels<\/em> in 1991 and most recently <em>Not So Much Said the Cat<\/em> in 2016, as well as the 118 short stories included in <em>The Periodic Table of Science Fiction<\/em>, one per each element. His recent novel <em>The Iron Dragon&#8217;s Mother<\/em> completed a trilogy begun with <em>The Iron Dragon&#8217;s Daughter<\/em> in 1993, which was named a New York Times Notable Book. Two of his short stories  &#8212; &#8220;Ice Age&#8221; and &#8220;The Very Pulse of the Machine&#8221;  &#8212; were adapted for the Netflix series <em>Love, Death + Robots<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29079\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelSwanwickEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed his response to learning a reader of his was recently surprised to find out he was still alive, how J. R. R. Tolkien turned him into a writer, why it took him 15 years of trying to finally finish his first story, how Gardner Dozois and Jack Dann taught him how to write by taking apart one of his tales and putting it back together again, why it was good luck he lost his first two Nebula Awards the same year, the good advice William Gibson gave him which meant he never had to be anxious about awards again, which friend&#8217;s story was so good he wanted to throw his own typewriter out the window in a rage, the novel he abandoned writing because he found the protagonists morally repugnant, why he didn&#8217;t want to talk about <em>Playboy<\/em> magazine, the truth behind a famous John W. Campbell, Jr.\/Robert Heinlein anecdote, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 183 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or listen via use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24905289\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what  we had for brunch while chatting at <a href=\"https:\/\/rosebudrestaurants.com\/locations\/rosebud-randolph\/\">Rosebud on Randolph<\/a>   &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Bananas Foster French Toast<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>challah bread, fresh bananas, caramel sauce, whipped cream,<br \/>\nvanilla gelato, powdered sugar, maple syrup<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29081\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BananasFosterFrenchToastRosebud-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Michael&#8217;s Carnitas Benedict<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>carnitas, hollandaise, potatoes<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29082\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/MichaelsBenedictRosebud-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me next time for my penultimate Worldcon meal with Oghenechovwe Donald Ekpeki, winner of the Nebula Award for Best Novelette earlier this year, who was also up for two Hugo Awards that weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the flesh and blood world, the 80th World Science Fiction Convention is long over, but here at Eating the Fantastic &#8212; where I&#8217;ve already invited you to eavesdrop on my meals there with Wesley Chu, Carol Tilley, and Eileen Gunn &#8212; it lives on. 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