{"id":29030,"date":"2022-10-21T08:05:59","date_gmt":"2022-10-21T12:05:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=29030"},"modified":"2022-10-21T08:05:59","modified_gmt":"2022-10-21T12:05:59","slug":"eileen-gunn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/10\/21\/eileen-gunn\/","title":{"rendered":"Dig into dim sum with the Nebula Award-winning Eileen Gunn in Episode 193 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome back to another culinary conversation from the 80th World Science Fiction Convention, where you&#8217;ve already joined me for brunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/09\/23\/wesley-chu\/\">Wesley Chu<\/a> and lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/10\/05\/carol-tilley\/\">Carol Tilley<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My guest this time around is <a href=\"https:\/\/eileengunn.com\">Eileen Gunn<\/a>, who received the Nebula Award in 2005 for \u201cComing to Terms,&#8221; a story inspired, in part, by her friendship with Avram Davidson, about whom she&#8217;s working on a biography. She also won Japan&#8217;s Sense of Gender Award, and has been nominated for the Hugo, Philip K. Dick, Locus, and Tiptree awards. Her short story collections include <em>Stable Strategies and Others<\/em> (2004), <em>Questionable Practices<\/em> (2014), and most recently <em>Night Shift Plus &#8230; <\/em>, out earlier this year as part of the PM Press Outspoken Authors Series. From 2001-2008, she was editor and publisher of the influential webzine <em>The Infinite Matrix<\/em>. She served for 22 years on the board of directors for Clarion West, and taught there and at numerous other creative writing workshops. She also had a lengthy career in technical advertising and website management in Boston, Seattle, and New York.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29039\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-1021x1024.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-768x770.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnEatingtheFantastic-1532x1536.jpg 1532w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how it&#8217;s possible to write when you always have writers block, the Ursula K. Le Guin story which convinced her she could have a career in science fiction, the two most important things she wants aspiring writers to know, her early advertising career writing funny ads for shoes she didn&#8217;t like, the reason she believes &#8220;I don&#8217;t decide what the story is until after I&#8217;ve finished it,&#8221; which famous science fiction writer wrote the box copy for Screaming Yellow Zonkers, the question Kate Wilhelm asked her at Clarion which unlocked the unknown ending of a story in progress, the way her years in the ad business helped her become a better writer, how Carol Emshwiller made her a person of interest with a sheriff&#8217;s department, what she said on a Worldcon panel which was so outrageous the audience had to be told she was joking, how <em>Psychology Day<\/em> magazine was almost sued over Frankenstein because they didn&#8217;t listen listen to my advice, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us at Chicago&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.minghincuisine.com\">MingHin<\/a> cuisine &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 182 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or listen via use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24755499\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what  we  chowed down on as we chatted over dim sum  &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> BBQ Pork Buns<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29047\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/BBQPorkBunsMingHin-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Sticky Rice<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29046\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/StickyRiceMingHin-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Shrimp Dumplings with Green Chives<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29048\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/ShrimpDumplingsGreenChivesMingHin-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Siu Mai<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29049\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/SiuMaiMingHin-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Alas, I forgot to snap a photo of our Turnip Cake &#8230; but I did remember our fortune cookies!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Our Fortune Cookies<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Eileen&#8217;s above, mine below<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-29042\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/EileenGunnFortuneCookies-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me next time for my fourth meal harvested for you from the Chicago Worldcon, with Michael Swanwick, who\u2019s won five Hugo Awards and three Locus Awards, as well as a Nebula, World Fantasy, and Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award \u2014 plus has been nominated for and lost more of these major awards than any other writer.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome 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