{"id":28915,"date":"2022-08-30T09:10:10","date_gmt":"2022-08-30T13:10:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=28915"},"modified":"2022-08-30T09:12:27","modified_gmt":"2022-08-30T13:12:27","slug":"david-ebenbach","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/08\/30\/david-ebenbach\/","title":{"rendered":"Join writer David Ebenbach for cheesecake in D.C. on Episode 179 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This episode\u2019s conversation didn&#8217;t involve sneaking off from a convention &#8212; though it might have.  That&#8217;s because I <em>could<\/em> have had lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/davidebenbach.com\">David Ebenbach<\/a> during Awesome Con as I did with previous guests of the show <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/07\/22\/patrick-oleary\/\">Patrick O\u2019Leary<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/08\/05\/sam-j-miller\/\">Sam J. Miller<\/a>, but I didn&#8217;t see the point in trying to squeeze him into a busy weekend when he was a local writer and  I was  able to meet up with him any time. And so that&#8217;s what I did, heading into D.C. for lunch on the patio at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gloverparkgrill.com\">Glover Park Grill<\/a><\/p>\n<p>David&#8217;s  the author of eight books of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction, the most recent being his novel<em> How to Mars<\/em>, published last  year by Tachyon Press, and the short story collection <em>The Guy We Didn\u2019t Invite to the Orgy and Other Stories<\/em>, published in 2017 by the University of Massachusetts Press.  His short stories have appeared in such genre markets as <em>Asimov&#8217;s<\/em>, <em>Analog<\/em>, and <em>Not One of Us<\/em>, but he&#8217;s also been published in such literary markets as the <em>Kenyon Review<\/em>, <em>Iowa Review<\/em>, and <em>New England Review<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28921\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachEatingtheFantstic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>His writing has won him the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize, the Patricia Bibby Award, and other awards. He  works at Georgetown University, teaching creative writing and literature at the Center for Jewish Civilization and creativity through the Masters in Learning, Design, and Technology Program, and promoting inclusive, student-centered teaching at the Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed the way he started writing science fiction without realizing he was writing science fiction, the final line of the worst thing he&#8217;s ever written, how his first scribbling as a kid was a violent spy novel about The Smurfs, why it&#8217;s important to root for an author and not merely our own reading experience, the cliches some in the literary and science fiction worlds believe about each other, the newspaper article which sparked his novel <em>How to Mars<\/em>, the way he&#8217;s managed to carve himself out a bifurcated writing life, the philosophical differences between those writing novels and short stories, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 178 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply use the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/24211758\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what  we sipped and nibbled during our breakfast at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gloverparkgrill.com\">Glover Park Grill<\/a> &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> David&#8217;s Reuben Sandwich <\/strong><br \/>\n<em>but with no corned beef, and extra Swiss cheese and sauerkraut<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28929\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/DavidEbenbachSandwich-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Chicken Parmesan Sandwich<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28928\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/ScottChickenParmesanSandwich-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Our Cheesecake<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28931\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/CheesecakeGloverParkGrill-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me next time, when before I drop episodes recorded during the  Chicago Worldcon on you, you\u2019ll get to eavesdrop on my recent conversation with writer Max Gladstone &#8212; winner of the Hugo, Nebula, and Ignyte Awards for <em>This is How You Lose the Time War<\/em>, written in collaboration with Episode 52&#8217;s guest of the podcast <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/11\/17\/nibble-frozen-cranberries-with-amal-el-mohtar-in-episode-52-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Amal El-Mohtar<\/a> &#8212; about his most recent novel <em>Last Exit<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This episode\u2019s conversation didn&#8217;t involve 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