{"id":28651,"date":"2022-05-13T09:06:45","date_gmt":"2022-05-13T13:06:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=28651"},"modified":"2022-05-13T09:06:45","modified_gmt":"2022-05-13T13:06:45","slug":"john-appel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/05\/13\/john-appel\/","title":{"rendered":"Join John Appel for a dry-aged burger in Episode 171 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This time around, I invite you to take a seat at the table on a sunny patio for lunch with writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aetherwatch.com\">John Appel<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>John\u2019s debut novel <em>Assassin&#8217;s Orbit<\/em>, published last year, was a finalist for the 2022 Compton Crook Award. He\u2019s a former US Army paratrooper, a long-time information security professional, a historical fencer, and a life-long gamer who\u2019s written the occasional tabletop RPG adventure. He co-edited the anthology <em>Skies of Wonder, Skies of Danger<\/em> along with Mary Alexandra Agner. John\u2019s also a graduate of the Viable Paradise workshop and a founding member of the Maryland Space Opera Collective writing group.<\/p>\n<p>We met for lunch at the <a href=\"https:\/\/thewhiteoaktavern.com\">White Oak Tavern<\/a>, which is in the Enchanted Forest Shopping Center in Ellicott City, Maryland, and if there was ever a proper place to record an episode of Eating the Fantastic, an Enchanted Forest certainly sounds like it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28652\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/JohnAppelEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how pitching his debut novel as &#8220;<em>Battlestar Galactica<\/em> meets <em>Golden Girls<\/em>&#8221; got him an agent, why his background in table-top RPGs might be the reason he writes novels rather than short stories, how he deals with the &#8220;candy bar&#8221; scenes of his plots, the way critique groups and sensitivity readers can help make books better, how to juggle multiple viewpoints and still have them all be equally compelling, the political aspects of his novel which make it a different read than it would have been when it was first begun, his particular set of skills which helped bring fight scenes alive, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 170 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply listen via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/23100116\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we nibbled as we chatted &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Baked White Cheddar Cornbread<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with chipotle butter and scallions<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28655\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/CornBreadWhiteOak-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Brisket Hash<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>house-smoked shredded grass-fed brisket, fried red potatoes,<br \/>\nred onion, wilted greens, poached farm eggs,<br \/>\nfrench gray salt,bacon bits <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28657\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/BrisketHashWhiteOak-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>John&#8217;s White Oak Burger<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>dry-aged, grass-fed beef, porter-glazed caramelized onions,<br \/>\nThe White Oak Special Sauce, arugula, aged white cheddar,<br \/>\nbrioche bun, served with house-made ketchup<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28658\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/WhiteOakBurger-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me two weeks from now to eavesdrop on my lunch with writer Steven R. Southard, who dropped by my neck of the woods for brunch  while driving from Maryland to Texas.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This time around, I invite you to take a seat at the table on a sunny patio for lunch with writer John Appel. John\u2019s debut novel Assassin&#8217;s Orbit, published last year, was a finalist for the 2022 Compton Crook Award. 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