{"id":28429,"date":"2022-02-04T09:57:21","date_gmt":"2022-02-04T14:57:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=28429"},"modified":"2022-02-04T09:57:21","modified_gmt":"2022-02-04T14:57:21","slug":"daryl-gregory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/02\/04\/daryl-gregory\/","title":{"rendered":"Nibble noodles with Daryl Gregory in Episode 164 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the real world, <a href=\"https:\/\/discon3.org\">DisCon III, the 79th World Science Fiction Convention<\/a>, is two months behind us in the rearview mirror &#8230; but here at Eating the Fantastic, it goes on. And now that you&#8217;ve eavesdropped as I&#8217;ve chatted and chewed with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/12\/24\/jose-pablo-iriarte\/\">Jos\u00e9 Pablo Iriarte<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/01\/07\/fonda-lee\/\">Fonda Lee<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2022\/01\/21\/usman-t-malik\/\">Usman T. Malik<\/a>, it&#8217;s time for you to join <a href=\"https:\/\/darylgregory.com\">Daryl Gregory<\/a> and me as we have lunch at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dolanuyghur.com\">Dolan Uyghur restaurant<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Daryl Gregory&#8217;s first novel, <em>Pandemonium<\/em> (2008), won the Crawford Award and was nominated for a World Fantasy Award. His novella <em>We Are All Completely Fine<\/em> (2014)  won the Shirley Jackson Award and the World Fantasy Award. His short story collection <em>Unpossible and Other Stories<\/em> was named one of the best books of 2011 by Publishers Weekly. His novel <em>Spoonbenders<\/em> (2017) was a Top 20 Amazon Editor\u2019s Choice, an Audible.com\u2019s editors choice for the year, and an NPR best book of the year. His most recent novel is <em>Revelator<\/em>, which was published last August. His comics work includes <em>Planet of the Apes<\/em>, <em>The Green Hornet<\/em>, <em>Dracula<\/em>, and the graphic novel <em>The Secret Battles of Genghis Khan<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28431\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic-1019x1024.jpg 1019w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEatingtheFantastic-1529x1536.jpg 1529w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d like a tiny taste of Daryl before taking a seat at the table for our full meal, check out what he had to say  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/05\/21\/relive-nebula-awards-weekends-past-and-present-in-the-third-lightning-round-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\"> while  eating a raspberry coffee cake donut<\/a>  during the 2018 Nebula Awards weekend.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how he celebrated the two books he published during the pandemic, what caused him to say about his latest novel, &#8220;I like to split the difference to keep everyone as unsatisfied as possible,&#8221; the narrative technique which finally unlocked the writing of that book (and why it made <em>Revelator<\/em> more difficult to complete), how our mothers responded to our writing, the way marketing affects the reading protocols of our stories, how listening to Damon Knight and Kate Wilhelm argue about one of his stories freed him as a writer, the promise a murder mystery makes to a reader, his &#8220;Mom Rule&#8221; for Easter eggs, the way he tortured a comic book artist with an outrageous panel description, how to play fair when writing a science fiction mystery where anything can happen, what Samuel R. Delany told him which helped him make his first sale to F&#038;SF, how he doesn&#8217;t understand why everybody doesn&#8217;t want to be writers, the way his writing gets better during the times he isn&#8217;t writing, Gardner Dozois&#8217; &#8220;ladder of sadness,&#8221; and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can join us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 163 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply listen via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/22023068\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we nibbled at Dolan Uyghur that day &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Kawa Samsa<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>oven-baked bun stuffed with butternut squash, onions, red and green bell peppers,<br \/>\nblack pepper, and house spices, and sprinkled with sesame seeds<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28434\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/SamsawithDarylGregory-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Royal Laghman  with Lamb <\/strong><br \/>\n<em>stir-fried onions, cabbage, mushrooms, green and red peppers,<br \/>\nand tomato topped hand-pulled chewy noodles.<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28439\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/ScottEdelmanEntree-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Daryl&#8217;s Korma Chop with Beef<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>uyghur-styled signature fried noodles with chives, onions, red bell peppers<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/DarylGregoryEntree-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Baklava<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>fine flour, egg, pistachio, lemon salt, sugar, and butter <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28436\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/BaklavawithDarylGregory-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me two weeks from now for the final conversation I brought back from the 79th World Science Fiction Convention in Washington D.C., when I lunch with Natalie Luhrs, a two-time Hugo Award nominee for her incisive and occasionally controversial fan writing.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Out in the real world, DisCon III, the 79th World Science Fiction Convention, 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