{"id":28367,"date":"2022-01-07T09:55:45","date_gmt":"2022-01-07T14:55:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=28367"},"modified":"2022-01-07T09:55:45","modified_gmt":"2022-01-07T14:55:45","slug":"fonda-lee","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2022\/01\/07\/fonda-lee\/","title":{"rendered":"Breakfast on Eggs Benedict with Fonda Lee in Episode 162 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Omicron surge is making me fear for my participation in future conventions, but that doesn&#8217;t erase the fun I had in D.C. last month during <a href=\"https:\/\/discon3.org\">DisCon III, the 79th World Science Fiction Convention<\/a>. I recorded five episodes of the podcast that weekend, the first of which was last episode&#8217;s pizza dinner with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/12\/24\/jose-pablo-iriarte\/\">Jos\u00e9 Pablo Iriarte<\/a>. This time around I invite you to join me for breakfast with the award-wining writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fondalee.com\">Fonda Lee<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Fonda Lee won both a World Fantasy Award and an Aurora Award for her novel <em>Jade City<\/em>, which was also nominated for Nebula, Seiun, and Sunburst Awards. That first installment of her Green Bone Saga, an epic urban fantasy, was followed by <em>Jade War<\/em>, which was nominated for both the Dragon and Aurora Awards. <em>Jade Legacy<\/em>, the third book in her series, was released in November of 2021. Her young adult novels <em>Zeroboxer<\/em> and <em>Exo<\/em> were both Andre Norton Award finalists. She holds black belts in karate and kung fu, which probably came in handy when it was time for her to write Shang-Chi for Marvel Comics.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Because Fonda is a fan of Eggs Benedict, we headed to the Lafayette restaurant in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hayadams.com\">Hay Adams Hotel<\/a>, where I&#8217;d been informed by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/people\/tom-sietsema\/\">Tom Sietsema<\/a> of the <em>Washington Post<\/em> we could find an excellent incarnation of that dish.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed what it was like finishing the final book in her Green Bone Saga trilogy during the pandemic, her secret for keeping track of near 2,000 pages of characters and plot points, why every book project is terrifying in its own way, how much of the ending she knew at the beginning (and our opposing views on whether knowing the ending helps or hurts the creative process), the warring wolves inside her as she writes the most emotionally difficult scenes, why she starts to worry if her writing is going too smoothly, the framing device that became far more than a framing device, why her natural length for processing ideas is the novel rather than the short story, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can take a seat at the table with us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 161 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simply listen via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/21704978\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a closer look at that Eggs Benedict &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-28372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/FondaLeeEggsBenedict-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me two weeks from now for another culinary conversation I harvested from the 79th World Science Fiction Convention in Washington D.C., when I lunch with Usman T. Malik, who won the British Fantasy Award for his novella &#8220;The Pauper Prince and the Eucalyptus Jinn,&#8221; and the Bram Stoker Award for his short story \u201cThe Vaporization Enthalpy of a Peculiar Pakistani Family.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Omicron surge is making me fear for my participation in future conventions, but that doesn&#8217;t erase the fun I had in D.C. last month during DisCon III, the 79th World Science Fiction Convention. 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