{"id":27930,"date":"2021-08-13T07:53:20","date_gmt":"2021-08-13T11:53:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=27930"},"modified":"2021-08-14T14:10:23","modified_gmt":"2021-08-14T18:10:23","slug":"second-novels","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2021\/08\/13\/second-novels\/","title":{"rendered":"Devour donuts with Karen Osborne, Sarah Pinsker, and K. M. Szpara as they discuss second novels on Episode 151 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this year, Karen Osborne, Sarah Pinsker, and K. M. Szpara &#8212; all previous guests of this podcast &#8212; became members of a very special club &#8212; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/06\/04\/karen-osborne\/\">Karen Osborne<\/a>, who recently appeared on Episode 146, published second novel <em>Engines of Oblivion<\/em> on February 9.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/04\/25\/eat-one-of-george-r-r-martins-dragon-eggs-with-k-m-szpara-in-episode-35-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">K. M. Szpara<\/a>, whose origin story you learned about in Episode 35, published his second novel <em>First, Become Ashes<\/em> on Apr 6.<\/p>\n<p>And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2020\/04\/26\/episode-120\/\">Sarah Pinsker<\/a>, who kicked off this podcast way back in Episode 1 and then returned four years later to catch up in episode 120, published her second novel <em>We Are Satellites<\/em> on May 11.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic-300x157.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"157\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27932\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/KarenSarahKellanEatingtheFantastic-1536x804.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Once I realized three talented and talkative suddenly sophomore authors all lived close enough to get together for a round table where we could discuss that shared experience, I knew it was too good an opportunity to waste.<\/p>\n<p>What are the joys and challenges of writing and publishing a second book? Writers can take their entire lives to get their first novels published, after which creating another novel in a year \u2014 or sometimes less \u2014 can be major pressure. After giving everything they had to the first novel \u2014 how does a writer decide what&#8217;s worth writing next? Do they fear they won&#8217;t live up to the promise of their debut, and might disappoint readers? I had a wonderful time listening to this trio of second novelists opening up about their experiences, and I hope you will too.<\/p>\n<p>We chatted while nibbling on takeout from Baltimore\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zaatarbaltimore.com\">Zaatar Mediterranean Cuisine<\/a>, and about two-thirds of the way through, switched up to doughnuts from my favorite such spot in Baltimore \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/diablodoughnuts.square.site\">Diablo Doughnuts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels-300x153.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"153\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27996\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels-300x153.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels-1024x521.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels-768x391.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels-1536x782.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/ThreeNovels.jpeg 1965w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed why \u201csecond books are weird,\u201d what (if anything) they learned writing their debuts which made book two easier, why pantsing is a thing of the past, whether book two had them concerned about creating a brand, how writing acknowledgements for second novels can be strange, the way deadlines made taking time off between books impossible, the dangers of being abandoned by debut culture, the fear of fewer pre-publication eyeballs on book two, how the pandemic will affect the creation of future novels, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can take a seat at the virtual table with us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample a few of the 150 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or listen using the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/20130683\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And here (in addition to the donuts above) is what we nibbled &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Salad<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27939\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/SaladZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Grape Leaves<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27947\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GrapeLeavesZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Hallomi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27944\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/HallomiZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Beef Shawarma<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27936\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/BeefShawarmaZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Falafel<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27942\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/FalafelZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Mohamarah<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27950\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/MohamarahZaatar-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me two weeks from now when I\u2019ll break bread with Michael Underwood, author of more than a dozen books, and a finalist for both the Stabby award for his Genrenauts novella series, and the Hugo Award for Best Fancast with the Skiffy &#038; Fanty Show.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this year, Karen Osborne, Sarah Pinsker, and K. M. Szpara &#8212; all previous guests of this podcast &#8212; became members of a very special club &#8212; Karen Osborne, who recently appeared on Episode 146, published second novel Engines of Oblivion on February 9. K. M. 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