{"id":27814,"date":"2021-07-16T09:50:33","date_gmt":"2021-07-16T13:50:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=27814"},"modified":"2021-07-21T22:27:41","modified_gmt":"2021-07-22T02:27:41","slug":"john-wiswell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2021\/07\/16\/john-wiswell\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s pure pandemonium \u2014 peanut butter pandemonium! \u2014 with John Wiswell in Episode 149 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We\u2019re in a transitional period here at Eating the Fantastic, not yet fully returned to the pre-pandemic premise of the podcast, which had you in restaurants, taking a seat at the table with me and my guests. A new normal is slowly making itself known, as you heard in two recent episodes with writer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/06\/04\/karen-osborne\/\">Karen Osborne<\/a> and agent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2021\/07\/02\/joshua-bilmes\/\">Joshua Bilmes<\/a>, who were the first non-Zoom unmasked faces of people not members of my family I saw in around 15 months.<\/p>\n<p>In this episode, though, we have another conversation recorded using my lockdown method of attempting to match meals with my guests so we can pretend we\u2019re together even though there are hundreds, if not thousands, of miles between us. Over the past year, you joined me as I\u2019ve baked and shared homemade scones and pizza, or ordered takeout weiner schnitzel and sushi, my guests and I doing our best to seize those moments of community COVID-19 tried to steal from us. In this case, <a href=\"http:\/\/johnwiswell.blogspot.com\">John Wiswell<\/a> and I pretended we were sitting across the table from each other during the Nebula Awards weekend. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/JohnWiswellEatingtheFantastic.jpeg 1832w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/johnwiswell.blogspot.com\">John Wiswell<\/a> won a Nebula Award earlier this month for the short story &#8220;Open House on Haunted Hill,&#8221; which had been published last year by <em>Diabolical Plots<\/em>. He&#8217;s also appeared in <em>Nature<\/em>, <em>Uncanny<\/em>, <em>Weird Tales<\/em>, <em>Fireside<\/em>, <em>Daily Science Fiction<\/em>, <em>Flash Fiction Online<\/em>, <em>Cast of Wonders<\/em>, <em>Podcastle<\/em>, and <em>Pseudopod<\/em>. In an astonishing show of prolificacy, he managed to posted fiction on his blog every day for six straight years, which I find astonishing. I found his Nebula acceptance speech astonishing as well; it was one of the best I&#8217;ve ever heard.<\/p>\n<p>John and I were supposed to enjoy specialty hamburgers together this time around, only &#8230; something went wrong, as you shall hear. Why did I end up eating a chuck roast, brisket, and short rib burger while John only got to nibble on ice cream and carrots? For the answer to that question, well &#8230; you&#8217;ll have to listen.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed his motivation for giving one of the greatest acceptance speeches ever, how he learned to build meaning out of strangeness, the way writing novels taught him to make his short stories better, his dual story generation modes of confrontation vs. escape, why what we think we know about the Marshmallow Test is wrong, the reason we&#8217;re both open online about our rejections, how the love of wallpaper led to him becoming a writer, why we&#8217;ve each destroyed our early writing from time to time, what he learned writing a story a day for six years, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can take a seat at the virtual table with us &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212; where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to sample some of the other 148 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Use the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or listen using the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/19831283\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And here (in addition to John&#8217;s carrots above) is what we nibbled &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>John&#8217;s Ice Cream Cone<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>stewart&#8217;s peanut butter pandemonium<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27823\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/PeanutButterPandemonium-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Burger<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>ground chuck, brisket, and short rib<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27816\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysBrisketShortRibBurgerEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Scott&#8217;s Key Lime Pie <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-27818\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/GloryDaysKeyLimePieEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread  with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of Eating the Fantastic, and help this podcast continue.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me two weeks from now when I\u2019ll break bread &#8212;  pita bread &#8212; with Eisner Award-winning comics writer Tom King &#8212; in an actual D.C. restaurant!<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We\u2019re in a transitional period here at Eating the Fantastic, not yet fully returned to the pre-pandemic premise of the podcast, which had you in restaurants, taking a seat at the table with me and my guests. 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