{"id":26872,"date":"2020-07-22T16:50:38","date_gmt":"2020-07-22T20:50:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26872"},"modified":"2020-07-22T20:38:04","modified_gmt":"2020-07-23T00:38:04","slug":"lee-murray","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2020\/07\/22\/lee-murray\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s time for a long-distance lunch <em>and<\/em> dinner with award-winning writer Lee Murray"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I should be on my way to Wellington, New Zealand right now to attend <a href=\"https:\/\/conzealand.nz\">CoNZealand<\/a>, the 78th World Science Fiction convention, during which I\u2019d planned to dine with friends and then share our conversations with you. But alas, that&#8217;s not happening, and I&#8217;m sure I don&#8217;t need to explain why.<\/p>\n<p>But at the urgings of some of my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a> supporters, I&#8217;ve decided to break bread anyway with some of the creators I&#8217;d intended to record with had I made it there, only with 16 hours and thousands of miles separating us. So last night, I had dinner with writer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.leemurray.info\">Lee Murray<\/a>, while she had lunch the following day.<\/p>\n<p>Lee is a three-time Bram Stoker Awards finalist, and is also New Zealand\u2019s most\u00a0awarded writer and editor of fantastic fiction, having won two Australian Shadows and a dozen Sir Julius Vogel Awards. Her novels include\u00a0<em>The Battle of the Birds<\/em> (2011),\u00a0<em>Dawn of the Zombie Apocalypse<\/em>\u00a0(2019), as well as\u00a0<em>Into the Mist<\/em> (2016),\u00a0<em>Into the Sounds<\/em> (2018),\u00a0<em>Into the Ashes<\/em> (2019), and others. \u00a0\u00a0She&#8217;s edited fourteen anthologies, including <em>Baby Teeth: Bite-Sized Tales of Terror <\/em>(2013), <em>Hellhole: An Anthology of Subterranean Terror <\/em>(2018), and others. \u00a0Her first collection, <em>Grotesque: Monster Stories<\/em>, will be published July 24.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26873\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayEatingthFantastic-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how she crafted her first short story collection, the importance of mentoring our next generation of genre writers, why we&#8217;re unlikely to ever go spelunking together, whether she prefers her zombies fast or slow, the unique awards club of which we&#8217;re both members, the way her use of New Zealand culture might be perceived differently by readers in and out of her country, the difficulties some seem to have with stories written in the present tense, the thrill of being the first New Zealander to appear in <em>Weird Tales<\/em> magazine, how the experiences of reading aloud <em>The Hobbit<\/em> and <em>The Lord of the Rings<\/em> differ, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> \u2014 where I hope you&#8217;ll check out a few of the 123 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/15316994\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our respective meals &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Lee&#8217;s Goat Cheese Salad<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with pesto dressing<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26875\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/LeeMurrayGoatCheeseSalad-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Lee&#8217;s dessert was a custard square, which you can see her holding in the photo up top.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s Sausage and Roasted Vegetables<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>plus a yonah schimmel knish<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26877\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/ScottEdelmanDinnerLeeMurrayEpisode-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Scott&#8217;s candied pineapple<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26890\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Episode124CandiedPineapple-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche \u2014 that is, on-the-road restaurant interviews, to which I&#8217;ll return as soon as the pandemic allows \u2014 there are expenses beyond the usual ones for studio-based podcasts. I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and \u2014 counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners \u2014 results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Coming up next episode will be another meal which had been meant to take place during Worldcon in Wellington, with another guest I would have dined with face-to-face had only COVID-19 not gotten in the way.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for your support. 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