{"id":26823,"date":"2020-05-28T09:51:45","date_gmt":"2020-05-28T13:51:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26823"},"modified":"2020-05-28T09:51:45","modified_gmt":"2020-05-28T13:51:45","slug":"justina-ireland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2020\/05\/28\/justina-ireland\/","title":{"rendered":"Join <em>New York Times<\/em> best-selling novelist Justina Ireland on Episode 122 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, I had a wonderful Persian lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/justinaireland.com\">Justina Ireland<\/a> at Orchard Market &#038; Cafe outside of Baltimore. The food was delicious, and the conversation on which you were meant to eavesdrop was delightful. Unfortunately, after that, things did not go as planned.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to know what I mean by that, check out our chat on the latest episode of Eating the Fantastic.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/justinaireland.com\">Justina Ireland<\/a> is the author of the <em>New York Times<\/em> best-selling novel <em>Dread Nation<\/em>, as well as the recently published sequel <em>Dark Divide<\/em>. She&#8217;s a World Fantasy Award-winner for her former role as the co-editor in chief of <em>FIYAH Literary Magazine of Black Speculative Fiction<\/em>. She also written <em>Star Wars: Flight of the Falcon: Lando&#8217;s Luck<\/em>, several novels in the middle grade fantasy series <em>Devils\u2019 Pass<\/em>, including <em>Evie Allen vs. the Quiz Bowl Zombies<\/em> and <em>Zach Lopez vs. the Unicorns of Doom<\/em>, and many more. <em>Vulture<\/em> has called her &#8220;the most controversial figure in young-adult literature.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26825\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/JustinaIrelandEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed whether having written zombie novels has helped her deal with the pandemic, her biggest pet peeve when she hears other writers talk about writing, where she falls in the fast vs. slow zombies debate (and how she&#8217;s managed to have the best of both worlds), our very different reasons for not having read <em>Harry Potter<\/em>, the way she avoided sequelitis in <em>Dark Divide<\/em>, what it was like playing in the <em>Star Wars<\/em> sandbox, why it&#8217;s easier to lie when writing from a first person point of view, the franchise character she most wishes she could write a novel about, the main difference between science fiction and YA communities, how <em>Law &#038; Order<\/em> gives comfort during these trying times, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> \u2014 where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few of the 121 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/14601320\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoy this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche \u2014 that is, usually on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 which I hope I&#8217;ll be getting back to soon &#8212; there are expenses beyond the usual ones for studio-based podcasts. I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and \u2014 counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners \u2014 results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, I had a wonderful Persian lunch with Justina Ireland at Orchard Market &#038; Cafe outside of Baltimore. 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