{"id":26773,"date":"2020-04-26T15:02:11","date_gmt":"2020-04-26T19:02:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26773"},"modified":"2020-04-26T15:07:51","modified_gmt":"2020-04-26T19:07:51","slug":"episode-120","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2020\/04\/26\/episode-120\/","title":{"rendered":"Catch up with the award-winning  Sarah Pinsker on Episode 120 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since restaurants began closing down and social distancing became the sensible thing to do for my health, the health of potential podcast guests, and the health of the herd, listeners have been suggesting I consider recording episodes of Eating the Fantastic remotely &#8230; and I&#8217;ve resisted.  Because my purpose here is to share the magical, intimate, relaxed conversations which occur best when people are chatting face-to-face over a table filled with food. That&#8217;s why <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2020\/04\/10\/sheltering-in-place\/\">last episode<\/a>, I ended up letting <em>you<\/em> ask <em>me<\/em> the questions.<\/p>\n<p>But then it occurred to me &#8212; there\u2019s one person on the planet &#8212; and only one &#8212; with whom I <em>was<\/em> willing to record remotely. And that person is <a href=\"https:\/\/sarahpinsker.com\">Sarah Pinsker<\/a>, my guest on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/02\/10\/the-first-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-guest-sarah-pinsker-is-now-live\/\">Episode 1<\/a> of this podcast four years and two months ago. I intended to catch up with her in meatspace anyway all these years later, but suddenly it felt right for us to chat in cyberspace.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26774\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SsrahPinsker.jpeg 1591w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The reason I felt that way is due to her wonderful debut novel, <em>A Song for A New Day<\/em>, which was published in September 2019. It&#8217;s  set in a near future where due to a terrorist attack and an accompanying pandemic, all mass gatherings are banned \u2014 no concerts, no sporting events, no ways for people to come together the way people have done since the beginning of time \u2014 and we&#8217;re instead only allowed to meet in VR. So meeting up with Sarah remotely made artistic and poetic sense \u2014 because it would almost be as if we were living in the world of her novel.<\/p>\n<p>Since that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/02\/10\/the-first-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-guest-sarah-pinsker-is-now-live\/\">first episode<\/a>, Sarah&#8217;s short story collection <em>Sooner or Later Everything Falls into the Sea<\/em> was published in March of last year by Small Beer Press. It includes many award-nominated and award-winning stories, including her Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award-winning &#8220;In Joy, Knowing the Abyss Behind,&#8221; and her Nebula Award winner &#8220;Our Lady of the Open Road.&#8221; The  collection as a whole was recently awarded the Philip K. Dick Award. \u2028<\/p>\n<p>Her novel <em>A Song for a New Day<\/em> is currently a finalist for this year\u2019s Nebula Award. She\u2019s also a Hugo Award finalist for Best Novelette for &#8220;The Blur in the Corner of Your Eye,&#8221; published last year in <em>Uncanny Magazine<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>We discussed how relieved she was her pandemic novel <em>A Song for a New Day<\/em> was published in 2019 rather than 2020, why she originally wrote that book in a song format (and why that had to change), how she loves being surprised by her own characters, why neither of us can bear listening to music while we write, the extremely scientific, color-coded process she came up with for organizing her first short story collection, how one of her favorite fictional tropes led to the creation of the original story she wrote specifically for that collection, why the thing that most interests her is the way people cope with what&#8217;s put in front of them rather than why those things happen, the reason she prefers leaving interpretations to readers rather than providing answers, her terrible habit when reading collections and anthologies, how she&#8217;s coping with the surreal feeling of living in the world of her novel, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> \u2014 where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few of the 119 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/14151218\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our socially distant meal &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Corn Fritters<\/strong><br \/>\n<em> crispy thai-style fried corn <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SpiceandDiceCornFritters.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SpiceandDiceCornFritters-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26776\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SpiceandDiceCornFritters-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SpiceandDiceCornFritters-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120SpiceandDiceCornFritters.jpeg 596w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Tofu Pad See Ew<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120TofuPadSeeEw.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120TofuPadSeeEw-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26777\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120TofuPadSeeEw-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120TofuPadSeeEw-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120TofuPadSeeEw.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Roast Chicken Thigh<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with a Yonah Schimmel knish and roasted vegetables <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26778\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Episode120RoastChicken-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche \u2014 that is, usually on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 which I hope I&#8217;ll be getting back to soon &#8212; there are expenses beyond the usual ones for studio-based podcasts. I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and \u2014 counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners \u2014 results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks for your support!<\/p>\n<p>Coming up next, I\u2019m going to bring you another sheltering in place episode. My call for listeners and former guests to send me questions resulted in me receiving 95 of them, and I was only able to get through 33 in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2020\/04\/10\/sheltering-in-place\/\">Episode 119<\/a>. So a few weeks from now, I\u2019ll once again sit down at home for lunch with all those questions in a bowl, pull them out at random, and answer them while I eat. There are so many questions I never got to, including ones from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/11\/21\/savor-a-steak-dinner-with-comics-legend-paul-levitz-in-episode-82-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Paul Levitz<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/07\/21\/down-drunken-noodles-with-george-r-r-martin-in-episode-43-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">George R. R. Martin<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/02\/17\/nosh-on-deli-with-barry-n-malzberg-in-episode-29-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Barry Malzberg<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/08\/24\/dive-into-vietnamese-seafood-noodle-soup-with-rachel-pollack-in-episode-75-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Rachel Pollack<\/a>, and many many more.<\/p>\n<p>I hope you&#8217;ll join me!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since restaurants began closing down and social distancing became the sensible thing to do for my health, the health of potential podcast guests, and the health of the herd, listeners have been suggesting I consider recording episodes of Eating the Fantastic remotely &#8230; and I&#8217;ve resisted. 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