{"id":26730,"date":"2020-03-27T10:30:13","date_gmt":"2020-03-27T14:30:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26730"},"modified":"2020-03-27T14:01:54","modified_gmt":"2020-03-27T18:01:54","slug":"universe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2020\/03\/27\/universe\/","title":{"rendered":"Time travel to 1995 as Geoffrey A. Landis and Yoji Kondo ponder the age of the universe in a flashback episode of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On September 20, 1995, four years into editing <em>Science Fiction Age<\/em> magazine, I got together with scientist\/science fiction writers Geoffrey A. Landis and Yoji Kondo at a restaurant in Bethesda, Maryland to chew over the question &#8212; How old is the universe anyway?<\/p>\n<p>Why were we doing this?<\/p>\n<p>When I launched <em>Science Fiction Age<\/em> in 1992, one of the things I decided to do to deliver a different experience than other science fiction publications of the time was to have our science column be \u2014 not an essay by a single author \u2014 but a Science Forum. There was an occasional exception, but for the most part, from the very beginning, until the magazine shut down in 2000, I\u2019d take science fiction writers who were also scientists out for a meal, we\u2019d eat, we\u2019d chat, and I\u2019d record the results for publication.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of years back, I realized that since I\u2019d been eating in restaurants talking about the fantastic with science fiction writers, it made sense to repurpose what conversations survived for this podcast. And now, with the coronavirus making meals in restaurants either risky or impossible depending on your location, I thought it would be fun to share yet another time travel episode.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996-223x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"223\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26731\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996-223x300.jpeg 223w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996-761x1024.jpeg 761w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996-768x1033.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ScienceFictionAgeJanuary1996.jpeg 1097w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 223px) 100vw, 223px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>At the time of this conversation 25 years ago, Geoffrey A. Landis worked for Sverdrup Technology at the NASA Lewis Research Center and was named by <em>Ad Astra<\/em> magazine as a &#8220;cutting edge&#8221; theorist in the special issue on the \u201cstars&#8221; of space. As an SF writer, Geoffrey Landis had won the Hugo Award for \u201cA Walk in the Sun\u201d and a Nebula Award for \u201cRipples in the Dirac Sea.\u201d In the quarter century since, he&#8217;s won 2003 Hugo Award for best short story &#8220;Falling Onto Mars,&#8221; the 2011 Theodore Sturgeon Award for best short science fiction for &#8220;The Sultan of the Clouds,&#8221; and the 2014 Robert A. Heinlein Award.<\/p>\n<p>A quarter of a century ago, Yoji Kondo, an astrophysicist, was the director of the geosynchronous satellite observatory IUE. The previous year, he co-organized and co-chaired the International Astronomical Union Symposium on \u201cExamining the Big Bang\u201d in The Hague. Under the pseudonym Eric Kotani, he had written five SF books, four with John Maddox Roberts and one with Roger MacBride Allen. Since that time, he published an additional novel with Roberts, as well as the <em>Star Trek Voyager<\/em> novel <em>Death of A Neutron Star<\/em>. In 2003, the Lunarians  awarded him its Isaac Asimov Memorial Award. Sadly, Kondo passed away October 9, 2017.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how the idea of the universe even having a beginning is a relatively new concept, the way we choose between the many competing theories of its age, how the phrase &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; was a joke which stuck, the paradox of some stars appearing to be older than the universe itself, how a science fiction writer\u2019s imagination might solve unanswered questions, whether knowing when the universe was born will help us calculate when it will end, and more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation &#8212; <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> \u2014 where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few of the 116 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/13727192\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy \u2014<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also \u2014 you could tell your friends about the show by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally \u2014 because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche \u2014 that is, on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 there are expenses beyond the usual ones for studio-based podcasts. I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and \u2014 counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners \u2014 results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You could make a small recurring monthly donation over at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks for your support. 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