{"id":26470,"date":"2019-11-29T08:43:12","date_gmt":"2019-11-29T13:43:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26470"},"modified":"2019-11-29T08:43:12","modified_gmt":"2019-11-29T13:43:12","slug":"larry-lieber","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2019\/11\/29\/larry-lieber\/","title":{"rendered":"Share scallops with comics legend Larry Lieber in Episode 110 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I first met comic book artist and writer Larry Lieber when I worked in the Marvel Comics Bullpen of the mid-\u201870s. Though perhaps that\u2019s not really accurate &#8212; because that was only when I first met him in the <em>flesh<\/em>. I really first met him when I was seven, the year I picked up copies of <em>Tales of Suspense<\/em> #39, in which he co-created Iron Man, <em>Journey into Mystery<\/em> #83, in which he co-created Thor, and <em>Tales to Astonish<\/em> #35, in which he co-created Ant-Man.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-300x146.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"146\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26520\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-300x146.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-1024x499.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-768x374.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-1536x748.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberComics-2048x997.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Larry also contributed to comics in many other ways, with long stints working on the Marvel western comic <em>Rawhide Kid<\/em>, the syndicated newspaper strips devoted to <em>Spider-Man<\/em> and <em>The Hulk<\/em>, and so much more. He&#8217;s also responsible for one of the most memorable moments of my early comics career. During a party hosted by Bullpen pal Tony Isabella at his midtown Manhattan penthouse apartment atop the Hotel Edison, he and I and Tony sang \u201cNew York, New York\u201d from \u201cOn the Town\u201d while we danced back and forth across the roof, pretending we were Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, and Jules Munchin.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26471\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LarryLieberEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A week before Larry\u2019s 88th birthday, we met for dinner at his favorite French restaurant, <a href=\"https:\/\/bistrolesteak.com\">Bistro Le Steak<\/a>, on the corner of Third Avenue and East 75th Street in Manhattan, where we chatted about the old days, as well as what he has planned for the days still to come.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed the old-time radio shows which most influenced him, what he learned about humanity from reading Margaret Mead back in the &#8217;50s, how the only reason he became a writer was because he was too slow to make a living an artist, who told him back at the start of his career that comics was a &#8220;dying industry,&#8221; the tips Stan Lee gave to make him a better writer, why his attempts to work for DC Comics never worked out, the warning artist Syd Shores offered he wishes he hadn&#8217;t heeded, how a quote he heard in a movie about Irish playwright Sean O&#8217;Casey helped him understand the arc of his own life, the three best-selling books he read before writing his own novel, his mixed feelings on winning the Bill Finger Award, how Jim Shooter helped him relearn how to be an artist, which comics assignment he enjoyed the most, what Stan Lee told him about the Rawhide Kid that made him decide to take it over from Jack Kirby, why he feels like Don Quixote, the surprising thing he thinks is the best thing he&#8217;s ever written, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation &#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at  <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212;  where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few  of the 109 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/12218432\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our meal at Bistro Le Steak  &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong> Escargots<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>with parsley &#038; garlic<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26486\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EscargotsBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Wild Mushroom Ravioli<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>wild mushroom cream sauce<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26488\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/WildMushroomRavioliEatingtheFantasticBistroLeSteak-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Sea Scallops &#038; Jumbo Shrimp<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>potato nest, diced vegetables, chipotle wine sauce<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26491\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/EntreeBistroLeSteakEatingtheFntastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Potato Crusted Cod Fish<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>mushrooms, string beans, beurre blanc<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/PotatoCrustedCodBistroLeSteakEatingtehFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Vanilla Ice Cream and Apple Pie<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/CaramelAppleBistroLeSteakEatingtheFantastic-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also &#8212; you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally  &#8212; because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche &#8212; that is, on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 there are expenses beyond the usual ones for  studio-based podcasts.  I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and  &#8212; counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners  &#8212; results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please come back in two weeks when my guest will  be Elsa  Sjunneson-Henry, winner of the Best Semiprozine Hugo Award earlier this year for her work as a Guest Editor of <em>Uncanny<\/em> magazine\u2019s <em>Disabled People Destroy Science Fiction<\/em> Special Issue and also a 2019 Hugo Award finalist for Best Fan Writer. 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