{"id":26435,"date":"2019-11-15T08:20:27","date_gmt":"2019-11-15T13:20:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=26435"},"modified":"2019-11-15T08:20:27","modified_gmt":"2019-11-15T13:20:27","slug":"paul-kirchner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2019\/11\/15\/paul-kirchner\/","title":{"rendered":"Nibble naan with artist Paul Kirchner in Episode 109 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve been attending the Maryland-based indie comics convention <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smallpressexpo.com\">SPX<\/a> &#8212; that is, the Small Press Expo &#8212; for 15 or so of its 36 years, and this time around took the opportunity to dine with artist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulkirchner.com\">Paul Kirchner<\/a>, who breathed the same comic industry air I did during the &#8217;70s. <\/p>\n<p>Paul broke into comics in the early \u201870s through a fortuitous series of events which had him meeting the legendary comics artist Neal Adams, who introduced him to DC Comics editor Joe Orlando, and within the week getting a gig as assistant to Tex Blaisdell helping him out on the <em>Little Orphan Annie<\/em> comic strip and stories for DC\u2019s mystery books. He also worked for awhile as assistant to the great EC Comics artist and <em>Daredevil<\/em> innovator Wally Wood. He moved on from mainstream comics to draw two wonderfully surrealistic strips &#8212; &#8220;Dope Rider&#8221; for <em>High Times<\/em> and &#8220;the bus&#8221; for <em>Heavy Metal<\/em>. His wide-ranging creative resume also includes a graphic novel collaboration with the great writer of detective novels Janwillem van de Wetering, designs for such toy lines as Dino-Riders and Spy-Tech, and much more.<\/p>\n<p>Paul and I had dinner once the con wound down at the nearby and  recently opened <a href=\"https:\/\/commonwealthindian.com\">Commonwealth Indian restaurant<\/a>, which had been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/lifestyle\/food\/commonwealth-indian-is-dressed-to-thrill-in-rockville\/2019\/06\/17\/2df9e0d4-8968-11e9-98c1-e945ae5db8fb_story.html\">favorably reviewed by the <em>Washington Post<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26436\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/PaulKirchnerEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how a chance encounter in art school led to him assisting cartoonist Tex Blaisdell on <em>Little Orphan Annie<\/em>, the life lessons he learned during his apprenticeship with EC Comics legend and <em>Daredevil<\/em> innovator Wally Wood, the ruse he used to convince the editor of <em>Harpoon<\/em> into commissioning more installments of his famed <em>Dope Rider<\/em> strip, how the office of <em>Screw<\/em> magazine was nothing like you thought it would be and the office of <em>High Times<\/em> was everything you thought it would be, where he learned &#8220;the only thing that&#8217;ll kill you bigger than a flop is a hit,&#8221; the techniques he uses to dream up new episodes of his surrealistic strip &#8220;the bus,&#8221; his druggiest fan encounter, our joint memories of &#8220;Fabulous&#8221; Flo Steinberg, Marvel&#8217;s &#8220;Gal Friday,&#8221; his graphic novel collaboration with famed writer of detective fiction Janwillem van de Wetering, the first person he ever met in comics, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation at Commonwealth Indian restaurant &#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe at  <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> &#8212;  where I hope you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few  of the 108 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/12048935\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our meal (except for my Nariyal Konju &#8212; spicy, sauteed shrimp, reduced coconut milk, tamarind pulp &#8212; for which my photo was unfortunately so blurry it would be pointless to share) &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Samosa Chips<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>potatoes and carom seeds rolled pastry<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26444\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/SamosaChipsCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Lamb Biryani<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/LambBiryaniCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Garlic Naan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GarlicNaanCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Gulab jamun<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>milk dumplings served warm in rosewater syrup<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26446\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/GulabJamunCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Badam Halwa<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>almond pudding traditional way<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-26460\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/BadamHalwaCommonwealthIndianEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are several ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">rate Eating the Fantastic on Apple Podcasts<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also &#8212; you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally  &#8212; because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche &#8212; that is, on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 there are expenses beyond the usual ones for  studio-based podcasts.  I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and  &#8212; counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners  &#8212; results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please come back in two weeks when my guest will  be comics artist, writer, and editor Larrupin\u2019 Larry Lieber, the co-creator of Thor, Iron Man, and Ant-Man, who I met at the beginning of my comics career, and who also happens to be Stan Lee&#8217;s younger brother.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve been attending the Maryland-based indie comics convention SPX &#8212; that is, the Small Press Expo &#8212; for 15 or so of its 36 years, and this time around took the opportunity to dine with artist Paul Kirchner, who breathed the same comic industry air I did during the &#8217;70s. 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