{"id":25808,"date":"2019-03-08T09:24:15","date_gmt":"2019-03-08T14:24:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=25808"},"modified":"2019-03-08T09:24:15","modified_gmt":"2019-03-08T14:24:15","slug":"binge-on-brisket-benedict%e2%80%8e-with-michael-j-walsh-in-episode-90-of-eating-the-fantastic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2019\/03\/08\/binge-on-brisket-benedict%e2%80%8e-with-michael-j-walsh-in-episode-90-of-eating-the-fantastic\/","title":{"rendered":"Binge on Brisket Benedict\u200e with Michael J. Walsh in Episode 90 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to join me at the table with someone who&#8217;s been part of the community of the fantastic even longer than I have &#8212; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/michael.j.walsh.140\">Michael J. Walsh<\/a>. Over the past half century, he\u2019s been a fan, a book dealer, a convention chair, and a publisher. He\u2019s attended every World Fantasy Convention since the first in 1975, including <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wfc2018.org\">the last one<\/a>, where he and I were two of the Guests of Honor. Through his small press, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oldearthbooks.com\">Old Earth Books<\/a>, he\u2019s published Avram Davidson, Christopher Priest, Allen Steele and many others, plus two Howard Waldrop collections, which won him a special award from the World Fantasy Convention\u00a0in 2009.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We got together for lunch last month the same day I attended the Midwinter Midway fundraising function put on at the Peale Museum by <a href=\"http:\/\/submersiveproductions.com\">Submersive Productions<\/a>, the immersive theatrical troupe I adore, four of whose members were my guests in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2019\/01\/11\/eavesdrop-on-my-thai-dinner-with-the-immersive-and-totally-science-fictional-theatrical-troupe-submersive-productions\/\">Episode 86 of the podcast<\/a>, where we discussed the science fictional nature of their diverse happenings.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25809\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/MichaelJWalshEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Michael and I met at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.idabstable.com\">Ida B\u2019s Table<\/a> on the same block in Baltmore as the Peale. Ida B\u2019s is perhaps my favorite recent restaurant discovery, one I try to visit whenever I\u2019m in that city for great fried chicken, or shrimp and grits, or in this case, brisket benedict. <\/p>\n<p>We discussed what it is about the annual World Fantasy Conventions that drew him to attend all 44 of them, how a generous teacher&#8217;s gift of an Ace Double led to his first exposure to true science fiction, the big score which induced him to become a book dealer, the way Ted White was able to do so much with so little when he edited <em>Amazing Stories<\/em> in the &#8217;70s, what witnessing Anne McCaffrey and Isaac Asimov singing Gilbert and Sullivan tunes made him realize about writers, what his time in fandom taught him which made him realize he could make it as a publisher,\u00a0the time he was left speechless by Robert Heinlein offering him a drink, why it would have been wrong for a certain book he published to have won a Hugo, what con-goers most misunderstand about con runners, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop on our conversation at Ida B&#8217;s Table &#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">the iTunes store<\/a> &#8212;  where perhaps you&#8217;ll be tempted to download a few of the 89 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choice.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or check it out via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/8927390\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our conversation &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Corn Bread<\/strong>\t \t <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25810\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CornBreadIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Brisket Benedict<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>slow-braised beef brisket, wilted kale, fried egg<br \/>\nbuttermilk biscuit, red-eye gravy<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25811\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/BrisketBenedictIdaBsEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Coffee Cake Bread Pudding<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>topped with cinnamon streusel, creme anglaise, whipped cream<\/em>\t \t <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25812\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/CoffeeCakeBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Seasonal Bread Pudding<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>gingerbread<\/em>\t <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25813\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/SeasonalBreadPuddingIdaBsTableEatingtheFantastic.jpg 1831w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are a few ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">rate Eating the Fantastic on iTunes<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also &#8212; you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>Finally  &#8212; because of Eating the Fantastic\u2019s unique niche \u2014 that is, on-the-road restaurant interviews \u2014 there are expenses beyond the usual ones for  studio-based podcasts.  I sometimes use ride-sharing services to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, or I gas up to drive them myself \u2014 and then there\u2019s that food I used to entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and \u2014 counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by other diners \u2014 results a much more intimate environment than if we were alone together in a sterile studio.<\/p>\n<p>So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a supporter of the show, and help fund this mission of mine.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Please join me again in two weeks when it\u2019ll once again be time for more good food and more good conversation with a guest who contributes to the world of the fantastic where I\u2019ve chosen to spend my life.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to join me at the table with someone who&#8217;s been part of the community of the fantastic even longer than I have &#8212; Michael J. 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