{"id":25526,"date":"2018-11-30T09:59:48","date_gmt":"2018-11-30T14:59:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=25526"},"modified":"2018-11-30T10:20:00","modified_gmt":"2018-11-30T15:20:00","slug":"join-jo-walton-for-a-seafood-lunch-on-episode-83-of-eating-the-fantastic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/30\/join-jo-walton-for-a-seafood-lunch-on-episode-83-of-eating-the-fantastic\/","title":{"rendered":"Join Jo Walton for a seafood lunch on Episode 83 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I don&#8217;t know what <em>you<\/em> were doing last week on Black Friday, but as for me, I was taking this year&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/chessiecon.org\">Chessiecon<\/a> Guest of Honor <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jowaltonbooks.com\">Jo Walton<\/a> out to lunch at the nearby <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bluestoneonline.net\">Bluestone Restaurant<\/a>. And, of course, recording the conversation so you&#8217;d be able to join us at the table!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jowaltonbooks.com\">Jo Walton<\/a> won the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer in 2002 and the World Fantasy award for her novel <em>Tooth and Claw<\/em> in 2004. Her novel <em>Among Others<\/em> won both the 2011 Nebula Award and the 2012 Hugo Award for Best Novel, and (according to those who keep track of such things) is one of only seven novels to have been nominated for the Hugo Award, Nebula Award, and World Fantasy Award.<\/p>\n<p>Her novel <em>Ha&#8217;penny<\/em> was a co-winner of the 2008 Prometheus Award. Her novel <em>Lifelode<\/em> won the 2010 Mythopoeic Award. Her incisive nonfiction is collected in <em>What Makes This Book So Great<\/em> and <em>An Informal History of the Hugos<\/em>. She\u2019s the founder of International Pixel-Stained Technopeasant Day, something which we never quite got around to talking about, so if you want to know more about that holiday, well, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/International_Pixel-Stained_Technopeasant_Day\">Google is your friend<\/a>. Her next book, <em>Lent<\/em>, a fantasy novel about Savonarola, will be published by Tor Books in May 2019.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25527\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/JoWaltonEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how Harlan Ellison&#8217;s fandom-slamming essay &#8220;Xenogenesis&#8221; caused her to miss three conventions she would otherwise have attended, why Robert Silverberg&#8217;s <em>Dying Inside<\/em> is really a book about menopause, the reason she wishes George Eliot had written science fiction, the ways in which during her younger days she was trying to write like Poul Anderson, her technique for getting unstuck when she&#8217;s lost in the middle of writing a novel, why she loathes the plotter vs. pantser dichotomy, how she developed her superstition that printing out manuscripts is bad luck, the complicated legacy of the John W. Campbell Award (which she won in 2002), how she managed to write her upcoming 116,000-word novel <em>Lent<\/em> in only 42 days, and much, much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can eavesdrop  as we chow down in Timonium, Maryland &#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">the iTunes store<\/a>, where perhaps you&#8217;ll be moved to also check out a few of the 82 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen to the episode via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on whatever device you choose.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or stay right here and click  on the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/7750469\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/thumbnail\/yes\/preload\/no\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Whichever method you pick, enjoy our meal along with us via the photos below &#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Soup du Jour<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>New England Clam Chowder<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25529\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/SoupBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Fried Green Tomatoes<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>jumbo lump crab meat, shallots, chives, garlic, lemon beurre blanc<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25528\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FriedGreenTomatoesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Rockfish with Spinach<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/RockfishBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>French Fries<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25532\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FrenchFriesBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>&#8220;Firecracker&#8221; Salmon<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>spicy teriyaki, soy glaze, asian-style brussels, chef&#8217;s rice<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25531\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/FirecrackerSalmonBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Creme Br\u00fbl\u00e9e<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25534\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/CremeBruleeBluestoneEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you listen in, there are a few ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>One is to <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">rate Eating the Fantastic on iTunes<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also &#8212; you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d like to become even more involved, though, you can also become a supporter of the show. Every podcast has expenses such as equipment and web hosting, but Eating the Fantastic\u2019s on-the-road restaurant-based interviews means there are additional expenses like the ride-sharing services I sometimes use to carry me and my guests from convention centers to restaurants and back, and of course that food &#8212; food with which I entice those guests to wander off and share of themselves with you, food which loosens their tongues, relaxes them, and &#8212; counterintuitively, because we are after all out in public surrounded by others &#8212; creates a far more intimate environment than if we were locked away alone in a sterile studio.  So I hope you\u2019ll consider becoming a backer of Eating the Fantastic.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As for who\u2019s up next &#8212; I hope you&#8217;ll join me two weeks from now for dinner with horror writer Stephen Kozenewski, author of such gonzo novels as <em>Braineater Jones<\/em>, <em>Billy and the Cloneasaurus<\/em>, and <em>The Ghoul Archipelago<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Until we meet again &#8212; enjoy!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I don&#8217;t know what you were doing last week on Black Friday, but as for me, I was taking this year&#8217;s Chessiecon Guest of Honor Jo Walton out to lunch at the nearby Bluestone Restaurant. 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