{"id":25473,"date":"2018-11-21T07:29:50","date_gmt":"2018-11-21T12:29:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=25473"},"modified":"2018-11-21T07:34:28","modified_gmt":"2018-11-21T12:34:28","slug":"savor-a-steak-dinner-with-comics-legend-paul-levitz-in-episode-82-of-eating-the-fantastic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/21\/savor-a-steak-dinner-with-comics-legend-paul-levitz-in-episode-82-of-eating-the-fantastic\/","title":{"rendered":"Savor a steak dinner with comics legend Paul Levitz in Episode 82 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Get ready to get nostalgic &#8212; or rather, listen to <em>me<\/em> get nostalgic &#8212; on an episode of Eating the Fantastic which features a guest I believe I&#8217;ve known longer than any other &#8212;  comics legend <a href=\"http:\/\/paullevitz.com\">Paul Levitz<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Paul and I go <em>way<\/em> back, all the way to Phil Seuling\u2019s 1971 Comic Art Convention, when I would have been 16 and him 15, both fans and fanzine publishers, long before either of us had entered the comics industry as professionals. We later, along with a couple of other friends, roomed together at the 1974 World Science Fiction Convention in Washington D.C. As you listen, think of us as were were in the old days &#8212; that&#8217;s us in 1974 compared to us now &#8212; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018-300x150.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25474\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018-300x150.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018-768x384.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018-1024x512.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/ScottEdelmanPaulLevitz19742018.jpeg 1228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In 1976, he became the editor of <em>Adventure Comics<\/em> before he\u2019d even turned 20. He ended up working at DC Comics for more than 35 years, where he was president from 2002\u20132009. He\u2019s probably best known for writing the <em>Legion of Super-Heroes<\/em> for a decade, scripting the <em>Justice Society of America<\/em>, and co-creating the character Stalker with Spider-Man co-creator Steve Ditko. He was given an Inkpot Award at the San Diego Comic-Con in 2002 and the Dick Giordano Hero Initiative Humanitarian of the Year Award in 2013 at the Baltimore Comic-Con. And if you try to lift his massive and essential history <em>75 Years of DC Comics: The Art of Modern Mythmaking<\/em>, you\u2019re going to need to see a chiropractor.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25476\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/PaulLevitzEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed why even though in a 1973 fanzine he wrote he had &#8220;no desire to make a career for myself in this industry&#8221; he&#8217;s spent his life there, how wild it was the suits let kids like us run the show in the &#8217;70s, the time Marv Wolfman offered him a job over at Marvel (and why he turned it down), what he learned from editor Joe Orlando about how to get the best work out of creative people, the bizarre reason Gerry Conway&#8217;s first DC Comics script took several years to get published, how he made the Legion of Super-Heroes his own, which bad writerly habits Denny O&#8217;Neil knocked out of him, the first thing you should ask an artist when you start working with them, why team books (of which he wrote so many) are easier to write, our shared love for &#8220;Mirthful&#8221; Marie Severin, how glad we are there was no such thing as social media when we got started in comics, why Roger Zelazny is his favorite science fiction writer, and much, much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can listen in as we chow down at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.knickerbockerbarandgrill.com\">Knickerbocker Bar &#038; Grill<\/a> in New York&#8217;s Greenwich Village &#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">the iTunes store<\/a>, where I hope you&#8217;ll also be moved to check out some of the 81 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen to the episode using the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on the device of your choosing.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or click right here on the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/7644509\/height\/240\/theme\/legacy\/autoplay\/no\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>And while you do, vicariously enjoy our meal via the photos below&#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Bread<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25477\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerBread-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Caesar Salad<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCaesarSalad-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>T-Bone Steak for Two<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBone-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>T-Bone Steak for Two (Served)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25483\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerTBoneServed-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Cheesecake<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/KnickerbockerCheesecake-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And if comics are what brought you here, you&#8217;ll want to track down my two previous episodes with old comics comrades of mine &#8212; Episode 54&#8217;s lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2017\/12\/01\/join-comics-legend-marv-wolfman-for-gelato-in-episode-54-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Marv Wolfman<\/a> and Episode 76&#8217;s dinner with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/09\/07\/share-a-steak-dinner-with-legendary-comics-creator-and-my-70s-marvel-bullpen-pal-don-mcgregor-in-episode-76-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Don McGregor<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are a few ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comics ear candy&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>You could <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">rate Eating the Fantastic on iTunes<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>. Also&#8212;you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d like to become even more involved, there are three more substantial ways you can support this show. There are expenses such as equipment, bandwidth, gas,  parking, shuttling guests from hotels and convention centers to restaurants and back, and, as always, the meals which relax my guests and loosen their tongues for you. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s said there&#8217;s no such thing as a free lunch, and while that&#8217;s not true for my guests, it&#8217;s definitely true for Eating the Fantastic, because I do pay for that  food with which I entice them to come out with me and share of themselves with you, in an environment far more open and intimate than being locked away in a sterile studio. So anything you feel up to sending my way to help cover those and other associated costs would be most appreciated.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As for who\u2019s up next, that must remain a mystery for now, because with this episode, I\u2019ve run through Eating the Fantastic\u2019s backlog. I\u2019ll be heading off to <a href=\"http:\/\/chessiecon.org\">Chessiecon<\/a> in Timonum Maryland this weekend, and have two episodes scheduled there, but until I actually manage to pull off those meals, I\u2019d prefer to keep that information to myself. (Though I do keep my Patreon supporters <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/6-more-guests-be-22632838\">fully informed<\/a>.) I wouldn\u2019t wouldn\u2019t want you to blame a potential guest should circumstances prevent us from getting together. But I hope you\u2019ll subscribe so you\u2019ll be among the first to find out who I\u2019ve convinced to join me at the table.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile&#8212;enjoy!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Get ready to get nostalgic &#8212; or rather, listen to me get nostalgic &#8212; on an episode of Eating the Fantastic which features a guest I believe I&#8217;ve known longer than any other &#8212; comics legend Paul Levitz. 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