{"id":25121,"date":"2018-07-20T08:57:00","date_gmt":"2018-07-20T12:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=25121"},"modified":"2018-07-20T08:57:00","modified_gmt":"2018-07-20T12:57:00","slug":"ellen-klages-in-episode-72-of-eating-the-fantastic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2018\/07\/20\/ellen-klages-in-episode-72-of-eating-the-fantastic\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s time to taste Toad in the Hole with Ellen Klages in Episode 72 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to Pittsburgh for the penultimate episode of Eating the Fantastic recorded during the recent Nebula Awards weekend. If you want to experience that weekend as I did, check out my two dinners with  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/06\/01\/nebula-award-winning-writer-kelly-robson-had-a-little-lamb-and-you-can-eavesdrop-in-episode-68-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Kelly Robson<\/a>  and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/06\/29\/share-bbq-brisket-with-matthew-kressel-in-episode-70-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Matthew Kressel<\/a>, lunch with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/06\/15\/join-a-m-dellamonica-for-an-italian-lunch-in-episode-69-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Alyx Dellamonica<\/a>, and the chaotic but hopefully entertaining lightning-round <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2018\/05\/21\/relive-nebula-awards-weekends-past-and-present-in-the-third-lightning-round-episode-of-eating-the-fantastic\/\">Donut Jamboree<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And then move on to <em>this<\/em> episode&#8217;s guest, Ellen Klages, who won the Nebula Award in 2005 for her novelette, \u201cBasement Magic.\u201d Her novella, \u201cWakulla Springs\u201d (co-authored with previous guest of the show <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/04\/15\/episode-6-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-andy-duncan-is-now-live\/\">Andy Duncan<\/a>), was a finalist for the Hugo and Nebula awards and won the World Fantasy Award in 2014. <\/p>\n<p>She won the Scott O\u2019Dell Award for Historical Fiction, the Lopez Award for Children\u2019s Literature, and the New Mexico State Book Award for Young Adult Literature for her first novel, <em>The Green Glass Sea<\/em>. She has served for twenty years on the Motherboard of the James Tiptree, Jr. Literary Award.  Her novella \u201cPassing Strange\u201d was one of the finalists for this year&#8217;s Nebula award.  <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/EllenKlagesEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Our venue for this episode was the relatively new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2016\/04\/15\/episode-6-of-eating-the-fantastic-with-andy-duncan-is-now-live\/\">Whitfield at Ace Hotel<\/a>. This was certainly the most picturesque setting for a meal I experienced in Pittsburgh, because the building which housed both hotel and restaurant was a century-old former YMCA. <\/p>\n<p>We discussed why it took 40 years from the time she wrote the first sentence of her Nebula Award-nominated story \u201cPassing Strange\u201d to finish the tale, what a truck filled with zebras taught her about the difference between storytelling and real life, how cosplaying helped give birth to her characters, what she finds so fascinating about creating historical science fiction, why revising is her favorite part of writing, the reason she&#8217;s the best auctioneer I&#8217;ve seen in my lifetime of con-going, what she teaches students is the worst mistake a writer can make, how her collaboration with Andy Duncan gave birth to an award-winning novella, whether she still feels like \u201ca round peg in genre\u2019s polyhedral hole\u201d as she wrote in the afterword to her first short story collection, and much more.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"59\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23795\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2-300x59.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonWidget2.jpg 522w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can taste some of that Toad in a Hole with us&#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">the iTunes store<\/a>, where you&#8217;ll also be able to peruse all 71 previous episodes.<\/p>\n<p>2) Listen to the episode via the RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a> on any device of your choosing.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or simple listen using the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/6833064\/height\/240\/width\/480\/theme\/legacy\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"480\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what Ellen and I devoured for lunch during that Nebula Awards weekend&#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Toad in a Hole<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>farm egg, pepper jam, toast<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldToadinaHole-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Ellen&#8217;s Roast Beef Sandwich<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>horseradish, swiss, hash browns, smoked peppers<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldSandwich-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>My Duck Leg Confit<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>hash browns escarole, grapefruit marmelade<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-25154\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/WhitfieldDuckLegConfit-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode and want to support my mission of breaking bread with creators of the fantastic while letting you eavesdrop, there are three ways you can help bring this podcast to the attention of potential new listeners looking for science fiction, fantasy, and horror ear candy&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>You could <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">rate Eating the Fantastic on iTunes<\/a>  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a>. Also&#8212;you could tell your friends about the show  by sending them a link to your favorite episode and letting them know what I\u2019m doing here.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d like to become even more involved, there are three more substantial ways you can support this show. There are expenses such as equipment, bandwidth, gas,  parking, shuttling guests between hotels and convention centers to and from restaurants, and, of course, the meals which relax my guests and loosen their tongues for you, so anything you feel up to sending my way to help cover those and other associated costs would be most appreciated.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou could make a small recurring monthly donation over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a>, where there are various perks involved depending on your level of support, such as access to a patrons-only blog, getting a shout-out on the show, stickers, postcards, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Or if an ongoing level of commitment\u2019s not for you, or if Patreon\u2019s just not your thing, then consider tossing a couple of bucks in the tip jar instead and making a one-time donation of any size via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Or you could head on over to <a href=\"https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic\">https:\/\/ko-fi.com\/eatingthefantastic<\/a> and send me the funds to cover the cost of a cup of coffee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And I hope you&#8217;ll join me next episode, when my guest will be JY Yang, who was also a recent Nebula nominee  for their novella<em> The Black Tides of Heaven<\/em> and is currently a Hugo Award nominee for that same story.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s time to return to Pittsburgh for the penultimate episode of Eating the Fantastic recorded during the recent Nebula Awards weekend. 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