{"id":23405,"date":"2017-05-17T07:50:13","date_gmt":"2017-05-17T11:50:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=23405"},"modified":"2017-06-06T09:15:09","modified_gmt":"2017-06-06T13:15:09","slug":"grab-lunch-at-the-watergate-with-my-unindicted-co-conspirator-cynthia-felice-in-episode-37-of-eating-the-fantastic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2017\/05\/17\/grab-lunch-at-the-watergate-with-my-unindicted-co-conspirator-cynthia-felice-in-episode-37-of-eating-the-fantastic\/","title":{"rendered":"Grab lunch at the Watergate with my unindicted co-conspirator Cynthia Felice in Episode 37 of Eating the Fantastic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I visited the Watergate Hotel recently, and in case those of you familiar with the history of that infamous  location might be thinking I went there to bring down a president with a Bob Woodward\/Carl Bernstein-style investigation, let me quickly add &#8230; no. Rather, I went there  to investigate the food at the recently opened <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewatergatehotel.com\/washington-dc-restaurant-kingbird\">Kingbird<\/a> restaurant, with a guest who surprised me with her sudden visit  to  Washington, D.C., and whom I somehow managed to convince that a meal with me would be oh, so much more fun than visiting the National Air and Space Museum.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonDonationButton-300x68.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"68\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23670\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonDonationButton-300x68.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonDonationButton-768x175.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/PatreonDonationButton.jpg 816w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joining me within the walls of the Watergate Hotel was Cynthia Felice, who  published her first short story, \u201cLongshanks,\u201d  in 1976 in the pages of <em>Galileo<\/em>, a science fiction magazine published by the late, great Charlie Ryan, and her first novel, <em>Godsfire<\/em>, two years later. She is also the co-founder with Ed Bryant&#8212;about whom, alas, I must also say late and great&#8212;of the Colorado Springs Writer\u2019s Workshop.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceEatingtheFantastic.jpg 1902w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We discussed how Frank Herbert&#8217;s <em>Dune<\/em> made her say, &#8220;Hey, I can do that,&#8221; the virtues of owning a motel while being a writer, the marriage advice Kate Wilhelm gave her at Clarion, what Thomas M.  Disch told her that fixed one of her short stories, why we all loved the late, great Ed Bryant, the extraordinary lengths David Hartwell went to as he edited her second novel, how her collaborations with Connie Willis began, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how you can break into the Watergate with us&#8212;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23408\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CynthiaFeliceScottEdelmanEatingtheFantastic.jpg 1922w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>1) Subscribe over at  <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796\">the iTunes store<\/a>,  where all 36 previous episodes are also available.<\/p>\n<p>2) Download the episode to the device of your choice by using the show&#8217;s RSS feed of <a href=\"http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss\">http:\/\/eatingthefantastic.libsyn.com\/rss<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>3) Or just go ahead  listen via the embed below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/5364281\/height\/240\/width\/480\/theme\/legacy\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/autoplay\/no\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/\" height=\"240\" width=\"480\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what we ate during our chat&#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Complimentary potato chips<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/PotatoChipsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Bread <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23415\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/BreadKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Char-grilled beets<br \/>\n(young leeks, hazelnuts, bleu cheese) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23416\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/CharGrilledBeetsKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Leek soup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23417\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/LeekSoupKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Pan roasted daurade<br \/>\n(chard, pine nuts, harissa, chick pea) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/DauradeKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Pan roasted Skuna Bay salmon<br \/>\n(white beans, Virginia ham, baby arugula) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23421\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/SalmonKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Pan roasted Strawberry rhubarb galette<br \/>\n(ginger caramel, vanilla bean mascarpone, strawberry sorbet)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23419\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/StrawberryRhubarbGaletteKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Tiramisu verrine<br \/>\n(mascarpone cream, chocolate ganache, coffee gelato)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23418\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/TiramisuKingbirdEatingtheFantastic-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t forget to come back in two weeks (and if you <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/eating-the-fantastic\/id1083737796?mt=2\">subscribe<\/a>, you won&#8217;t even have to remember) for the first of five episodes recorded during the recent StokerCon, when my guest will be William F. Nolan, who co-wrote with George Clayton Johnson the novel <em>Logan\u2019s Run<\/em>, which I first read when I was 12. (That\u2019s the Golden Age of science fiction, right?) <\/p>\n<p>And after that&#8212;Elizabeth Hand, Dennis Etchison, Nancy Holder, and George R. R. Martin, coming in two-week intervals. Remember, though&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d like to join with other listeners in shortening that gap, you could choose to  make a recurring monthly donation over at   <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/eatingthefantastic\">Patreon<\/a> to help subsidize some of the travel, bandwidth, and meal costs associated with the show.    (Or, if you\u2019d prefer, make a one-time donation via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.me\/eatingthefantastic\">Paypal.me<\/a>.)  And don&#8217;t forget to  rate the show on iTunes and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/eatingthefantastic\/?fref=ts\">like it on Facebook<\/a> if you can, both actions  which will help bring Eating the Fantastic to the attention of possible new listeners.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for listening!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I visited the Watergate Hotel recently, and in case those of you familiar with the history of that infamous location might be thinking I went there to bring down a president with a Bob Woodward\/Carl Bernstein-style investigation, let me quickly add &#8230; no. 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