{"id":15985,"date":"2008-11-29T16:46:40","date_gmt":"2008-11-29T21:46:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=15985"},"modified":"2014-10-05T20:57:59","modified_gmt":"2014-10-06T00:57:59","slug":"the-importance-of-being-ernest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2008\/11\/29\/the-importance-of-being-ernest\/","title":{"rendered":"The Importance of Being Ernest"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over at <a href=\"http:\/\/comicsbeat.com\" target=\"_blank\"><i>The Beat<\/i><\/a>, Heidi MacDonald recently shared <a href=\"http:\/\/comicsbeat.com\/a-comics-shop-in-1965\/\" target=\"_blank\">a photo taken in a comics shop in 1967<\/a>.  She found the photo at <a href=\"http:\/\/unitproj.library.ucla.edu\/dlib\/lat\/introduction.cfm\" target=\"_blank\">the UCLA Charles E. Young Research Library Department of Special Collections<\/a>, which has digitized 5,746 images from its photographic archives which originally appeared in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">the <i>Los Angeles Times<\/i><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailynews.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">the <i>Los Angeles Daily News<\/i><\/a>  from the 1920s to the 1990s.<\/p>\n<p>As fascinating a photo as that is&#151;you can see a copy of <i>Action Comics<\/i> #1 out on a table rather than under glass&#151;I&#8217;m not going to share it with you here, since you can wander over to Heidi&#8217;s site and check it out for yourself.  But as soon as I heard of the existence of those UCLA archives, I immediately went and did some research of my own. I found <a href=\"http:\/\/unitproj.library.ucla.edu\/dlib\/lat\/display.cfm?ms=uclalat_1387_b190_63396&amp;searchType=keyword&amp;k=books&amp;w=none&amp;x=title&amp;y=none&amp;z=none&amp;s=1&amp;all\" target=\"_blank\">this fascinating photo<\/a> of  Los Angeles city councilman Ernest Debs holding  horror comic books which he had purchased in his district. <\/p>\n<p>I have no idea what Deb&#8217;s role was during the  comics censorship scare, but from his expression, I&#8217;m guessing that he didn&#8217;t enjoy the experience!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/LAHorrorComics.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/LAHorrorComics-239x300.jpg\" alt=\"LAHorrorComics\" width=\"239\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15987\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/LAHorrorComics-239x300.jpg 239w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/LAHorrorComics.jpg 599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 239px) 100vw, 239px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>With a little browsing at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\" target=\"_blank\"><i>The Grand Comics Database Project<\/i><\/a>, I was able to identify all six comics. They are <i>Tales From the Crypt<\/i> &#35;43 (August-September 1954),  <i>Chamber of Chills<\/i> &#35;24 (July 1954),  <i>Forbidden Worlds<\/i> &#35;31 (July 1954),  <i>Marvel Tales<\/i> &#35;125 (July 1954), <i>Strange Mysteries<\/i> &#35;17 (May 1954), and <i>Fight Against Crime<\/i> &#35;20 (July 1954). I&#8217;m not 100% sure that&#8217;s the correct <i>Chamber of Chills<\/i>  issue, since so much of the cover is obscured, but  the other IDs are definite.<\/p>\n<p>And here they are! <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>In his right hand (our left):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/TalesfromtheCrypt43.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/TalesfromtheCrypt43-202x300.jpg\" alt=\"TalesfromtheCrypt43\" width=\"202\" height=\"300\" class=\" size-medium wp-image-15989\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/TalesfromtheCrypt43-202x300.jpg 202w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/TalesfromtheCrypt43.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 202px) 100vw, 202px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ChamberofChills24.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ChamberofChills24-203x300.jpg\" alt=\"ChamberofChills24\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-15990\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ChamberofChills24-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ChamberofChills24.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ForbiddenWorlds31.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ForbiddenWorlds31-210x300.jpg\" alt=\"ForbiddenWorlds31\" width=\"210\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-15991\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ForbiddenWorlds31-210x300.jpg 210w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/ForbiddenWorlds31.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 210px) 100vw, 210px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And in his left hand (our right):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/MarvelTales125.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/MarvelTales125-196x300.jpg\" alt=\"MarvelTales125\" width=\"196\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-15995\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/MarvelTales125-196x300.jpg 196w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/MarvelTales125.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 196px) 100vw, 196px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/StrangeMysteries17.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/StrangeMysteries17-206x300.jpg\" alt=\"StrangeMysteries17\" width=\"206\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-15994\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/StrangeMysteries17-206x300.jpg 206w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/StrangeMysteries17.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 206px) 100vw, 206px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/FightAgainstCrime20.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/FightAgainstCrime20-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"FightAgainstCrime20\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-15993\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/FightAgainstCrime20-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/FightAgainstCrime20.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note that the final cover features a severed head, just like the issue of <i>Crime SuspenStories<\/i> about which Bill Gaines, the publisher and co-editor of EC Comics, had to testify before the 1954  Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/CrimeSuspenStories22.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/CrimeSuspenStories22-202x300.jpg\" alt=\"CrimeSuspenStories22\" width=\"202\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-15997\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/CrimeSuspenStories22-202x300.jpg 202w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/CrimeSuspenStories22.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 202px) 100vw, 202px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a excerpt from that testimony:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Chief Counsel Herbert Beaser: Let me get the limits as far as what you put into your magazine. Is the sole test of what you would put into your magazine whether it sells? Is there any limit you can think of that you would not put in a magazine because you thought a child should not see or read about it?<\/p>\n<p>Bill Gaines: No, I wouldn&#8217;t say that there is any limit for the reason you outlined. My only limits are the bounds of good taste, what I consider good taste.<\/p>\n<p>Beaser: Then you think a child cannot in any way, in any way, shape, or manner, be hurt by anything that a child reads or sees?<\/p>\n<p>Gaines: I don&#8217;t believe so.<\/p>\n<p>Beaser: There would be no limit actually to what you put in the magazines?<\/p>\n<p>Gaines: Only within the bounds of good taste.<\/p>\n<p>Beaser: Your own good taste and saleability?<\/p>\n<p>Gaines: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Senator Estes Kefauver: &#8230; This seems to be a man with a bloody axe holding a woman&#8217;s head up which has been severed from her body. Do you think that is in good taste?<\/p>\n<p>Gaines: Yes sir, I do, for the cover of a horror comic. A cover in bad taste, for example, might be defined as holding the head a little higher so that the neck could be seen dripping blood from it, and moving the body over a little further so that the neck of the body could be seen to be bloody.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gaines&#8217; unapologetic answers did him no favor, and ended up hastening the end of EC Comics. But as that <i>Fight Against Crime<\/i> cover shows&#151;everybody was doing it!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over at The Beat, Heidi MacDonald recently shared a photo taken in a comics shop in 1967. She found the photo at the UCLA Charles E. Young Research Library Department of Special Collections, which has digitized 5,746 images from its photographic archives which originally appeared in the Los Angeles Times and the Los Angeles Daily [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[18],"class_list":["post-15985","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-comics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15985","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15985"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15985\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16000,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15985\/revisions\/16000"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15985"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15985"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15985"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}