{"id":10059,"date":"2013-04-12T21:42:51","date_gmt":"2013-04-13T01:42:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/?p=10059"},"modified":"2013-04-12T21:42:51","modified_gmt":"2013-04-13T01:42:51","slug":"another-reason-i-love-dave-gibbons-and-continue-to-hate-roy-lichtenstein","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/2013\/04\/12\/another-reason-i-love-dave-gibbons-and-continue-to-hate-roy-lichtenstein\/","title":{"rendered":"Another reason I love Dave Gibbons (and continue to hate Roy Lichtenstein)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been hanging around here for any length of time, you already know how much I despise Roy Lichtenstein and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/2011\/12\/17\/a-few-words-in-defense-of-jack-kirby-sal-buscema-irv-novick-and-other-anonymized-artists\/\">those who I feel treat comic book artists the same way he did<\/a>. So I was delighted to learn via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bleedingcool.com\/2013\/04\/12\/dave-gibbons-takes-on-roy-lichtenstein-for-the-hero-initiative-and-comica\/\">Bleeding Cool<\/a> that UK comic book artists were planning to protest the Lichtenstein exhibition at the Tate Modern with an exhibition of their own.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/422259187860106\/\">Image Duplicator <\/a>is the name of a show which will appear at the Orbital Gallery in Leicester Square from May 16th-31st, gathering together the works of artists commenting on Lichtenstein&#8217;s treatment of the original creators he never credited. <\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what they&#8217;ve been invited to do:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Every interested comic artist (or illustrator, graphic designer or other &#8220;commercial artist&#8221;) should &#8220;re-reappropriate&#8221; one of the comic images Lichtenstein used, and rework it, using some of their &#8216;commercial art&#8217; drawing skills, to warp and twist it into something interesting and original, and in the process to comment on this type of appropriation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The first response I spotted was by Dave Gibbons, who tackled one of Lichtenstein&#8217;s most famous copyings. First, here&#8217;s the Lichtenstein, titled &#8220;Whaam!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyLichtensteinWHAAM.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10066\" alt=\"RoyLichtensteinWHAAM\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyLichtensteinWHAAM-300x127.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"127\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyLichtensteinWHAAM-300x127.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyLichtensteinWHAAM-1024x434.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyLichtensteinWHAAM.jpg 1140w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Before taking a look at what Gibbons did, check out Irv Novick&#8217;s original panel from <em>All-American Men of War<\/em> #89 (Jan.-Feb. 1962).<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/IrvNovickOriginalPanel.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10065\" alt=\"IrvNovickOriginalPanel\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/IrvNovickOriginalPanel-300x133.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"133\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/IrvNovickOriginalPanel-300x133.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/IrvNovickOriginalPanel.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And now Gibbons&#8217; brilliant commentary, which I hope I&#8217;ll have hanging on my wall once prints become available (with the proceeds going to benefit the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heroinitiative.org\/\">Hero Initiative<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/GibbonsNovick.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10060\" alt=\"GibbonsNovick\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/GibbonsNovick-300x136.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/GibbonsNovick-300x136.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/GibbonsNovick-1024x467.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/GibbonsNovick.jpg 1936w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I love the transformation of the sound effects into questions, but I love the fact that the background dots are now dollar signs even more.<\/p>\n<p>If you check out the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/422259187860106\/\">Image Duplicator<\/a> Facebook page, you&#8217;ll find many other contributions to the cause. Fufu Frauenwahl chose to comment on  Lichtenstein&#8217;s &#8220;Drowning Girl&#8221; &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/DrowningGirlRoyLichtenstein.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-10061\" alt=\"DrowningGirlRoyLichtenstein\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/DrowningGirlRoyLichtenstein-297x300.jpg\" width=\"297\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/DrowningGirlRoyLichtenstein-297x300.jpg 297w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/DrowningGirlRoyLichtenstein.jpg 495w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; and went back to the original by artist Tony Abruzzo at below left\u2014which appeared in <em>Secret Hearts<\/em>, no. 83 (November 1962)\u2014to provide the wonderful commentary at the right.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-10063\" alt=\"TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts-228x300.jpg\" width=\"228\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts-228x300.jpg 228w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts-779x1024.jpg 779w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/TonyAbruzzoSecretHearts.jpg 1152w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 228px) 100vw, 228px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyFufuFrauenwahl.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-10062\" alt=\"RoyFufuFrauenwahl\" src=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyFufuFrauenwahl-214x300.jpg\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyFufuFrauenwahl-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.scottedelman.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/RoyFufuFrauenwahl.jpg 685w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 214px) 100vw, 214px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But back to Dave Gibbons, who endeared himself to me even more with his responses during a discussion of Lichtenstein back in February. As reported by <a href=\"http:\/\/paulgravett.com\/index.php\/articles\/article\/the_principality_of_lichtenstein\">Paul Gravett<\/a>, Gibbons was interviewed by Alastair Sooke about &#8220;Whaam!&#8221; and had this to say:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Sooke:<\/strong> \u201cLichtenstein has not only transformed it, he\u2019s seriously improved it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gibbons:<\/strong> \u201cI would disagree. This to me looks flat and abstracted, to the point of view that to my eyes it\u2019s confusing. Whereas the original has got a three-dimensional quality to it, it\u2019s got a spontaneity to it, it\u2019s got an excitement to it, and a way of involving the viewer that this one lacks. For instance, the explosion here just looks to me like a collection of flat shapes, whereas the explosion in the original, because there are no lines in there, because it\u2019s all left to the colour, seems to me to have to me much more of the quality of an explosion.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There&#8217;s plenty more like that, so make sure to go read it all. I&#8217;ll just leave you with the final exchange, which made me smile, because I couldn&#8217;t agree with Gibbons more.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Sooke:<\/strong> \u201cBe honest. Is there any part of you that is narked by the fact that I could buy this comic book for \u00a35.95 and clearly, if this [painting] ever came up on the market, it would be worth tens and tens of millions of pounds.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gibbons:<\/strong> \u201cIt doesn\u2019t nark me at all. I mean, this is worth, to me, far more than that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sooke:<\/strong> \u201cWhat, for real? If you were offered this, you wouldn\u2019t have this? You\u2019d take the Irv Novick original?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gibbons:<\/strong> \u201cAbsolutely.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You and me, pal. You and me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been hanging around here for any length of time, you already know how much I despise Roy Lichtenstein and those who I feel treat comic book artists the same way he did. 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