It’s time for the fourth and final Eating the Fantastic conversation from StokerCon 2026, following my culinary chats with Arley Sorg, Kate Maruyama, and Jamal Hodge.

This episode’s guest is Todd Sanders, a poet as well as both the editor and publisher of Air & Nothingness Press, which is about to celebrate its 30th anniversary. I find the evolution of that press fascinating, for what began with the release of French Surrealist poetry in translation evolved into one of the more interesting genre presses out there — one with anthology calls so eclectic my reluctant muse — which is reluctant to rise to the challenge of theme anthologies — even woke for one of them.

We discussed how his love for French Surrealist poet Robert Desnos led to the creation of Air and Nothingness Press, why he’s been able to survive for 30 years when so many other presses have failed, which poet he wanted to be when he grew up, the art objects he created from from the short stories of Mary Robinette Kowal and Benjamin Rosenbaum, the reason he decided to publish an anthology of stories with obnoxiously long titles, what he’s learned from using Kickstarter to fund books,  a spam text I received which sparked his idea for a future anthology, plus much more.

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Here’s what you would have seen us nibbling had you been with us at Kabab King BBQ Grill (save for the garlic naan, which unfortunately was devoured before being snapped) —

Vegetable Samosas

Lamb Biryani

Grilled Chicken Platter

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Coming up next on the podcast, you’ll be able to sit in for the first of my Readercon meals, when I head for lunch with Alexander Jablokov, who’s published 50+ stories and numerous novels, and whom it seems I’ve been seeing at Readercons for just about as long as I’ve been attending them — and my first was its first, way back in 1987.