After six episodes, the Nebula Awards weekend is now in the rearview mirror, and it’s time to move on to the first of three recorded during my recent trip to Quincy, Massachusetts for Readercon. I’ve attended every Readercon since it began in 1987 save one, and that year, when I was off covering the San Diego Comic-Con for the Syfy Channel, I was so sad to be missing out on my friends, I sent a live-sized photographic standup of myself so people could snap selfies with me and post them online to cheer me up.

Luckily, last month, the real flesh-and-blood Scott Edelman was able to attend, though, yes, there were probably some who would have probably preferred the flat me, and I’ve returned with many hours of ear candy for you, starting with John Langan.

John Langan wrote the poetic horror novel The Fisherman, which was probably my favorite book of 2016. And I obviously wasn’t the only one who felt that way, because it won the Bram Stoker Award for Superior Achievement in a Novel the following year. His short fiction has been published in magazines such as Lightspeed and Fantasy & Science Fiction, anthologies such as Lovecraft’s Children and Poe, plus many other venues.

His debut short story collection, 2008’s Mr. Gaunt and Other Uneasy Encounters, went on to become a Stoker Award nominee. He and I may be the only two people in the history of the planet to write zombie stories inspired by Thornton Wilder’s “Our Town”—his 2008 story “How the Day Runs Down” and my 2001 story “Live People Don’t Understand” tackle that theme in very different ways. He’s a co-founder and on the Board of Directors of the Shirley Jackson Awards.

We discussed how reading Conan the Barbarian comic books as a kid made him hope he’d grow up to be a comic book artist, why his evolution as a writer owes as much to William Faulkner as it does to Peter Straub, what he learned about storytelling from watching James Bond with his father and Buffy the Vampire Slayer with his wife, the best way to deal with the problematic life and literature of H. P. Lovecraft, the reason his first story featured a battle between King Kong and Godzilla, his process for plotting out a shark story unlike all other shark stories, why a writer should never fear to be ridiculous, what a science experiment in chemistry class taught him about writing, his love affair with semicolons, that time Lucius Shepard taught him how to box, the reason the Shirley Jackson Awards were created, and much more.

This episode’s venue was about a 15-minute Uber ride from the Readercon hotel. We had lunch by the water at Tony’s Clam Shop,which has been in business along Wollaston Beach since 1964, and is worth a visit if you happen to be in town.

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Here’s what we devoured during that lunch by the beach—

Fish and Chips

Lobster Roll and Onion Rings

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